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Inside the mind of a high sec industrialist.
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Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#161 - 2013-02-22 13:52:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you.
Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?

Our goal is balance. If that means a few spineless wretches quit in a fit of rage because they no longer have it all their way then so be it.


Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".
Kate stark
#162 - 2013-02-22 13:54:18 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:


I am sure that the CCP accounting and marketing dept would love you.
Hey goons, given that you plan on placing 3 or 4 people on this CSM, can you make sure this visionary is one of them?

Our goal is balance. If that means a few spineless wretches quit in a fit of rage because they no longer have it all their way then so be it.


Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".


do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#163 - 2013-02-22 14:04:15 UTC
Kate stark wrote:

do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?


Yea, he does. I remember reading his posts prior to the NPC AI change 9something both he and I were against) and I kept thinking "God, why can't this guy be on THEIR side instead of mine". Seems like sometimes medication is called for.....
Kate stark
#164 - 2013-02-22 14:08:34 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kate stark wrote:

do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?


Yea, he does. I remember reading his posts prior to the NPC AI change 9something both he and I were against) and I kept thinking "God, why can't this guy be on THEIR side instead of mine". Seems like sometimes medication is called for.....


well, damn, i mean... i have no words for that.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2013-02-22 14:10:47 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
I was the OP of the locked thread this guy is talking about.

It's true that I would prefer that carebears be less afraid. What I was ranting about originally was that they were forming corportions and weighing down bright-eyed and enthusiastic newbies with their fear and ignorance when they should be emboldening and emporwering them.

Anyone who joins OPs corp will quickly find himself locked into a version of the game with all fun drained out of it. They will become like golems: unreal facsimilies of humans built only for drudgery and toil. They will quit and the entire game will be worse of for the fear and ignorance of people like the OP here.

That's what I object most to.

to be honest OP and people like he just informs newbees about dangers of PvP. They (OP and such) don't create these dangers.

These dangers are created by people like you. People who love to kill at all cost. Preferably - poorly prepared victim in pimped carebearmobile. YOU create these dangers and YOU whine about people who warns others.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#166 - 2013-02-22 14:17:23 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
[q
Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".

What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?
Kate stark
#167 - 2013-02-22 14:19:56 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
[q
Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".

What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?


warp to ship.
target ship.
fire guns.
i can do it with one hand!

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#168 - 2013-02-22 14:24:15 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
do you actually read, and believe, the stuff you type out before you hit the post button?


:D He's one of the top five, maybe even top three terrible posters at the moment, that's for sure.



@OP: I am a highsec industrialist, too. But your kind of thinking goes completely against everything that i want to see in this game. Please don't talk as if your shortsighted riskaverse thinking is representative for anyone else than your own. You don't speak for anyone else than yourself.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#169 - 2013-02-22 14:32:24 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
[q
Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".

What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?


warp to ship.
target ship.
fire guns.
i can do it with one hand!


Looking at your Girl avatar I was wondering what else you could do with one hand, then I saw your sig said "His".

But then again, it's not wrong if we both have Girl Avatars....... right?
Kate stark
#170 - 2013-02-22 14:37:03 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
[q
Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".

What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?


warp to ship.
target ship.
fire guns.
i can do it with one hand!


Looking at your Girl avatar I was wondering what else you could do with one hand, then I saw your sig said "His".

But then again, it's not wrong if we both have Girl Avatars....... right?


that depends, is this your main character?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
flakeys
Doomheim
#171 - 2013-02-22 15:07:29 UTC
Though the OP differs on a lot of stuf from how I enjoy the game gotta give him a like there.Well stated OP , well stated.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys
Doomheim
#172 - 2013-02-22 15:10:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
[q
Use any words you like.
The truth of the matter is goons will use any tool they can to further their position within the game.
As your crew used to state "we don't want to wreck THE game, we just want to wreck YOUR game.".

Balance is not something that goons want, or even understand.

If CCP would make it harder for griefers like you in in Uemon, and reversed out the idiotic drone AI and TD issues, we would be on the right track to restoring "balance".

What exactly makes ganking easy do you think?


What exactly makes it so hard ?

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Davith en Divalone
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#173 - 2013-02-22 15:13:00 UTC
Setaceous wrote:
Well, this thread has proven only one thing to me - no matter what MMO you play, the PvE vs PvP threads all boil down to the same thing:

Carebears: I like to build things
PeeVeePee'ers: I like to break things
Carebears: You're bad
PeeVeePee'ers: Nuh uh, You're bad.
Carebears: No, you're wrong.
PeeVeePee'ers: No, You are the ones that are wrong.

And around and around in circles we go, cue the Benny Hill Music.


Everything's better with Yackety Sax.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#174 - 2013-02-22 15:16:27 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
These dangers are created by people like you. People who love to kill at all cost. Preferably - poorly prepared victim in pimped carebearmobile. YOU create these dangers and YOU whine about people who warns others.

Question: why are there poorly-prepared victims in space in expensive ships 24 hours after receiving a war notification?

Because the people they look to for counsel in their own corp don't give it to them. They've had ample warning that we're coming.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#175 - 2013-02-22 15:25:42 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
These dangers are created by people like you. People who love to kill at all cost. Preferably - poorly prepared victim in pimped carebearmobile. YOU create these dangers and YOU whine about people who warns others.

Question: why are there poorly-prepared victims in space in expensive ships 24 hours after receiving a war notification?

Because the people they look to for counsel in their own corp don't give it to them. They've had ample warning that we're coming.

Yep, I'd tell them to spread over the region, all fit with a cloak and sit there afk all day in a safespot.

Then I'll go on voice after a day and read out all the hate mail I'd get from the gankbears.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#176 - 2013-02-22 15:32:36 UTC
Quote:


What exactly makes it so hard ?

Not the victims thats for sure.
Joran Dravius
Doomheim
#177 - 2013-02-22 15:34:53 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
You say that EVE is about ship-to-ship PVP. Maybe that is what it is about to you, but that is NOT what it is about to me. To me, EVE is about harvesting resources, producing goods, driving the market..

Where do you think the demand for your ships comes from? Oh right, PvP. Even industry is about facilitating PvP.
Kristopher Rocancourt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#178 - 2013-02-22 16:00:25 UTC
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
So, basically, you're reopening a LOCKED THREAD because, why? you're bored? Trolling for more fighting?


The thread was locked, not because of the sub-conversation it spawned, but because the OP was a rant.

This thread is not a rant, but rather an attempt to explain to others why I play the way I do.

Perhaps it should have started with a:
TLDR: I don't ship-to-ship PVP, and you can't make me.


My fleet of alpha nados begs to differ.

http://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/

Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#179 - 2013-02-22 16:04:40 UTC
Joran Dravius wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
You say that EVE is about ship-to-ship PVP. Maybe that is what it is about to you, but that is NOT what it is about to me. To me, EVE is about harvesting resources, producing goods, driving the market..

Where do you think the demand for your ships comes from? Oh right, PvP. Even industry is about facilitating PvP.


Your point being? What generates the demand does not necessarily matter to the industrialist, so long as that demand is present. The maker of a tank in the us probably does not wish to engage in a tank battle themselves, but they are happy the demand is present.

Why is it so hard to understand that people wish to play a game in the manner they enjoy so long as they operate within the,bounds of the sandbox? I have no desire to go anchor t2 large warp bubbles. I do, however, enjoy manufacturing and selling them. They are a nice niche product with decent profit. Granted, I want war in nul and wormholes because that helps the demand for such a product, buy I have no desire to participate in such combat at this time.

Really, why is it so hard to grasp that someone would enjoy making and profiting from the sale of an item, but not partaking of that item? Just because a factory worker assembles paintball guns for a living doesn't mean they wish to play the game all the time.

There are ample examples of industrialists who wish to make items in eve, mine, etc, but not partake in the combat that fuels the market. Isn't chribba the same, yet people leave him to do as he wishes.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#180 - 2013-02-22 16:10:35 UTC
Kristopher Rocancourt wrote:
LHA Tarawa wrote:
Ginger Barbarella wrote:
So, basically, you're reopening a LOCKED THREAD because, why? you're bored? Trolling for more fighting?


The thread was locked, not because of the sub-conversation it spawned, but because the OP was a rant.

This thread is not a rant, but rather an attempt to explain to others why I play the way I do.

Perhaps it should have started with a:
TLDR: I don't ship-to-ship PVP, and you can't make me.


My fleet of alpha nados begs to differ.



Can your fleet of alpha nados pop jita 4-4? There are ample traders there who never leave station and make isk off of trading alone. Heck, one cold use alts at certain stations, courier services like red frog, and you will never be able to engage such people in ship to ship combat. You may gank their courier, but they will never be in a ship for you to pop. It's part of the wide tapestry we call the eve sandbox. How hard is that to grasp?