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CCP please just change everything.

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SoOza N'GasZ
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Ethereal Dawn
#1 - 2013-02-22 10:17:08 UTC
Hurricane nerfing is a Sin.

first off whats the point in buying different ships if they are all pretty much equal within a tier..... just because of the race we chose at the beginning of the game?

And why cant we in balancing terms simply respect eve for what it is (to an extent that still works of course) without god constantly changing epic things that where for years, into completely medicore soso bits of metal?

The epicness of now nerfed ships where what defined that part of eve ... ccp is constantly working to make eve flat in my opinion.

Legba
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-02-22 10:20:20 UTC
So you think it would be better if we had just two good ships, and everybody would either train for them or fly mediocre soso bits of metal?

makes sense in a GD kind of way

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Kate stark
#3 - 2013-02-22 10:20:20 UTC
making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.

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SoOza N'GasZ
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Ethereal Dawn
#4 - 2013-02-22 10:22:32 UTC
Roime wrote:
So you think it would be better if we had just two good ships, and everybody would either train for them or fly mediocre soso bits of metal?

makes sense in a GD kind of way


why yes this is exactly what i think

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#5 - 2013-02-22 10:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Kate stark wrote:
making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.


yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;) so with diminishing diversity

Legba
Kate stark
#6 - 2013-02-22 10:26:25 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.


yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;)


except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same.
this is why it does create diversity.

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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#7 - 2013-02-22 10:27:29 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.


yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;)


except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same.
this is why it does create diversity.


really? making things less different is creating diversity? ok.... sorry

also in my childish english ( i apologize ) more the same is the same as similar. it is a fractional description of the same.

Legba
Kate stark
#8 - 2013-02-22 10:30:56 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.


yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;)


except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same.
this is why it does create diversity.


really? making things less different is creating diversity? ok.... sorry


as opposed to making 1 ship that every one flies and 7 ships that may as well not be in the game?
also i didn't say they were making things less different, and ccp didn't make things less different.

look at the prophecy and the myrmidon for example; both armour tanked drone boats. however the way they approach said role is completely different.

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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#9 - 2013-02-22 10:35:35 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
making eve flat, by promoting diversity of ships.... yeah, no.


yeah but truly they are not creating diversity they are making diverse ships more the same as others ;)


except, they are creating diversity. there's a difference between "similar" and "the same" some ships are now similar but they are not the same.
this is why it does create diversity.


really? making things less different is creating diversity? ok.... sorry


as opposed to making 1 ship that every one flies and 7 ships that may as well not be in the game?
also i didn't say they were making things less different, and ccp didn't make things less different.

look at the prophecy and the myrmidon for example; both armour tanked drone boats. however the way they approach said role is completely different.


so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....

and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?

why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?

more diversity means things are more different.

Legba
Yuko Tsero
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-02-22 10:40:06 UTC
Posting in a SoOza N'GasZ thread.

*grabs popcorn*
Kate stark
#11 - 2013-02-22 10:40:44 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....

and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?

why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?

more diversity means things are more different.


i didn't say hurricanes were the only ships people ever flew in the game. however it's nice to know that you think that's the case.

as for the rest of your post; what? can you *try* and make sense, please?

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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#12 - 2013-02-22 10:41:33 UTC
Yuko Tsero wrote:
Posting in a SoOza N'GasZ thread.

*grabs popcorn*


i must say im really enjoying the forums at the moment.

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#13 - 2013-02-22 10:41:55 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
so now you are saying the hurricane was the only ship people ever flew in game? ok.....

and you think that all cars on earth should have very similar performance specifications in order to create diversity?

why do some people then buy an audi and others a vw with 50 Bhp less?

more diversity means things are more different.


i didn't say hurricanes were the only ships people ever flew in the game. however it's nice to know that you think that's the case.

as for the rest of your post; what? can you *try* and make sense, please?


No.

Legba
Kate stark
#14 - 2013-02-22 10:43:43 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
No.


i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is.

deal?

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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#15 - 2013-02-22 10:46:04 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
No.


i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is.

deal?


im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled.

p.s. you are fired.

Legba
Kate stark
#16 - 2013-02-22 10:47:52 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
No.


i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is.

deal?


im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled.

p.s. you are fired.


you mean, that jumble of letters was an argument?
damn, really?
oh man...

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TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-02-22 10:49:11 UTC
I like how the logi ships work (although they need a little rounding)

1 for shield fleet
1 for armor fleet
1 for solo shield
1 for solo armor

If they did that kinda thing across all ships I'd be happy.

Different tools for different jobs etc.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#18 - 2013-02-22 10:49:39 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
No.


i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is.

deal?


im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled.

p.s. you are fired.


you mean, that jumble of letters was an argument?
damn, really?
oh man...


yes really, im sorry you didnt get it but i dont have time to reformulate it for you... youll just have to go out empty handed.... sorry bro.

Legba
Kate stark
#19 - 2013-02-22 10:51:29 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
No.


i'll cut you a deal, if you try and post something that makes sense. i'll try not to point out how stupid it is.

deal?


im sorry but i feel you are trying to avoid my argument because you know i am right by saying I dont make sense or that you simply are too challenged by it. So i wont accept your offer to reengage into an argument and waste time over matters that are already settled.

p.s. you are fired.


you mean, that jumble of letters was an argument?
damn, really?
oh man...


yes really, im sorry you didnt get it but i dont have time to reformulate it for you... youll just have to go out empty handed.... sorry bro.


my hands are as empty as the content of this thread.
on the bright side, at least the list of viable battlecruisers isn't as empty as it used to be.

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Moponi Mekaelth
The Violet Hour
#20 - 2013-02-22 10:52:03 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Hurricane nerfing is a Sin.

first off whats the point in buying different ships if they are all pretty much equal within a tier..... just because of the race we chose at the beginning of the game?

And why cant we in balancing terms simply respect eve for what it is (to an extent that still works of course) without god constantly changing epic things that where for years, into completely medicore soso bits of metal?

The epicness of now nerfed ships where what defined that part of eve ... ccp is constantly working to make eve flat in my opinion.


This.
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