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Buying lost Skill Point by game pause.

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Mario delTorres
Praetore Im Picaro Ama
#1 - 2013-02-21 15:55:13 UTC
I have an idea to add ability to buy lost Skill Points by game pause. For example: I have 7 years old account, I left for few months because of work and I hadn't ability to pay for game. Now I'm back in game, but I haven't possibility to buy PLEX for this lost time and Skill points.

My Idea is simple:
- if from any reason account is suspended, after new activation - user can pay for lost SP,
- amount of SP is counted from attributes of new char without implants,(int 20, will 20, char 19, mem 20 and perc 20 if I remember well),
- bought SP are assigned only to one (choosen) person from this account,
- you cannot boost char transfered from another account.
and two paiment options:
- for day paid in AUR, or/and
- for full month paid by PLEX.

I wonder your opinion about this idea.
MUHI's
Hell Corp
#2 - 2013-02-21 16:03:12 UTC
Good Idea :)
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-02-21 16:05:05 UTC
I don't see how you've lost any SP. You haven't simply paid for the game and want to use it as a justification to buy benefits not available to other players. I don't see how it's good business to reward people like you over people who kept paying or any other player for that matter.

Besides that, this seems like the standard SP buying crap, but is limited to a specific group of old characters and has a SP buying cap based on character age. I think the idea didn't get any better by limiting the harm it does and it can even be seen as an additional negative, because of the way you've decided to do the limiting.
Mario delTorres
Praetore Im Picaro Ama
#4 - 2013-02-21 16:19:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mario delTorres
After short discussion with allymates I want to add two limitations:

first: - You cannot pay for time before day when learning skills were removed,

second: You cannot buy more lost time than you have paid in normal way.
Una Bomber
Praetore Im Picaro Ama
#5 - 2013-02-21 16:36:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Oma Burben
YEAH!

I was in long vacation and didn't pay for one month, I want buy it back! :)
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#6 - 2013-02-21 17:00:00 UTC
No!

Horrible Idea!

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Dasmind
Warriors of Heaven
#7 - 2013-02-21 17:16:13 UTC
The idea seems good :))
Gaara's sniper
MLG1337420BlazeIt360TitanNoScopeCorporationSWAG
#8 - 2013-02-21 18:26:23 UTC
it could be a good idea , when you actually have a paid account and you forgot to add a skill.

If you are suggesting that unpaid accounts get such SP then no.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#9 - 2013-02-21 19:12:54 UTC
This would be clearly pay to win and is thus outside of EVE's design paradigm.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-02-21 19:35:05 UTC
Nah.

It would have to be some absolutely rotten deal, such as less than 1M SP for a PLEX (i.e. being strictly worse than what a subscribed player could make even under the worst circumstances) to make up for the fact that you get the benefits of having subscribed without creating the content such a subscription would have provided.

Also, depending on how good records they have on how much time you've spent unsubscribed, they'd have to put a max limit on how much you can get based on your account activation time (i.e. if your account was activated 24 months ago, you'd have a max of 24M SP that you could buy — again, strictly less than if you had actually been subscribed — and if you already have more than that, you're out of luck).

All in all, it would have to be such a lousy deal that no-one would really use it, which raises the question of why bother to implement it to begin with…
dope fish
HIgh Sec Care Bears
Brothers of Tangra
#11 - 2013-02-21 22:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: dope fish
I like it , I don't see why it should be a crap yield from it either as you are paying for the subscription +your lost sp, so many times have I left the game and stayed subscribed and forgot to renew my training que or not pay my credit bill and have my sub cancelled and completely forget about it..... Buying sp for a toon who lost training due to certain circumstances imo is a great idea and some of the ways I could see it done:
-only allow one character on the account this benefit
-have a max cap on the amount of months you can get back i.e 3 months of sp at flat rate of current attributes and last skill trained(as in if you are doing a int mem skill with int mem you get 2000 or so an hour.)
- allow it to be used once every 12 months just like acquiring a neural remap you can't abuse it then.
- also fix the hurricane highly disappointed in what you did to my baby.
- shut up and take my money !
- I also don't see how this a pay to win scheme when you have to wait for the sp any way and still pay for the sp at the same monthly flat rate

also my spelling and punctuation is L33t
Jane Travelstar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-02-22 04:09:59 UTC
Very nice idea OP.