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Amarr Cruisers

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Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-02-18 19:33:24 UTC
Hi hi.

Been running the 'freebee' amarr destroyer, the coercer, as a close range armor tank, fitting 8 lasers, cap boosters, rep, etc.

On a suggestion from a friend I've started training drones 5 (about 1 day left before I hit 5 and start training other drone skills).

Was looking at the various websites and very few mention the dragoon as a suggested flight. However many mention the Arbitrator as a great amarr drone boat, and multi purpose. Almost like a swiss army knife. As a note i'm NOT getting into pvp currently, not until I have my understanding of Eve down... (also get my skills up,i've mostly ignored the ewar tree so far) and then i'm gonna be going into combat as a frigate (I'm smaller, please ignore me :D)

As a PVE missioning cruiser, what would be suggested good 'cruiser' control skills to boost? I know about all the drone stuff (drones V, drone scout, etc etc etc).

Just wondering if there was anything (energy grid management for example) that was a 'must have' for running a cruiser for the first time?
Zhu Khan
Khanid Arbitrage Incorporated
#2 - 2013-02-18 20:19:07 UTC
For Amarr, Medium Energy Turrets is always a good idea for cruisers. If you're flying the Arbitrator, start looking at Tracking Disruption skills as well. They'll be helpful whenever you get the PVP bug. You're also going to want to start getting your fitting skills to V if you haven't already done so. Also, note that Battlecruisers are changing tomorrow and the Prophecy is being turned into a Drone boat, so you'll have a nice progression.

Personally, I find the Dragoon to be a little light on tank and bonused more for PVP than PVE. I wouldn't recommed it over the Coercer for Destroyer PVE.
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-02-18 20:40:15 UTC
Yeah. tired of having people sneaking in and salvaging my wrecks, half the time while i'm still killing other things. Thus was thinking of setting aside my beloved coercer, and just taking the headlong plunge into arby cruiser. Gives me the higher hp/higher armor, as well as drone capabilities.

Will have to work on medium guns, though.
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-02-18 20:46:35 UTC
as a side note, i've heard drones changed ALOT for pve recently... is that true?
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#5 - 2013-02-18 20:51:05 UTC
Kisiar Akriana wrote:
as a side note, i've heard drones changed ALOT for pve recently... is that true?


The only difference is that now, NPCs will sometimes switch targets. This means that sometimes they might swap and start shooting your drones. This is something you can deal with simply by paying attention to your drones' health and pulling them in when they're getting hurt.
Keno Skir
#6 - 2013-02-18 21:24:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Arbitrator will have more history of use purely because the Dragoon was recently introduced. Both are very solid.

I would be very interested to know next time someone is stealing your wrecks >:) Pm me for fireworks.
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-02-18 21:27:24 UTC
High sec, I thought about it for a minute... I really did :D

then i settled for blowing up the wrecks on them :D

Keno Skir
#8 - 2013-02-18 21:43:06 UTC
Even in hisec, you can easily find folk to kill them if they rob you. Don't be the victim >:)
J'Poll
MUSE LLP
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2013-02-18 22:53:09 UTC
Kisiar Akriana wrote:
Yeah. tired of having people sneaking in and salvaging my wrecks, half the time while i'm still killing other things. Thus was thinking of setting aside my beloved coercer, and just taking the headlong plunge into arby cruiser. Gives me the higher hp/higher armor, as well as drone capabilities.

Will have to work on medium guns, though.


FYI...salvaging is free for all.

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Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-02-19 00:26:38 UTC
J'Poll wrote:
FYI...salvaging is free for all.


oh, I know. just at least have the courtesy to let me stop fighting to start salvaging "D
Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-02-19 08:44:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Kisiar Akriana
as a side note, between nearly getting wiped out running the epic storyline and yelling room mates... i got playing around with EFT.

I probably should post this on ship board but seeing as I currently can't post there... could anyone look at this and offer suggestions?

Quote:
[Arbitrator, test]
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Prototype Armor Kinetic Hardener I
Medium Armor Repairer I
[empty low slot]
[empty low slot]

1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Hull Repairer I
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array
Eutectic Capacitor Charge Array

Quad Modal Light Laser I, Multifrequency M
Quad Modal Light Laser I, Multifrequency M
Light Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher I, Mjolnir Light Missile



Acolyte I x5
Salvage Drone I x1
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x1


I currently have i think the generic drone range. Was thinking, that I would warp in at a distance, drop the drones and send them in to shoot. the 'weapons' lasers and launchers, were if anything 'BIG' showed up (remember pve) or if the drones needed extra help. hull repair and armor repair, as well as the extra armor... in case anything got close and locked me. The MWD to make that hasty retreat if it all goes to hell. salvage for battlefield cleanup and repair to patch those poor drones up.

Wasn't sure if i should do the light missile launcher or a 'rapid LML', seeing as the rapid is for cruisers against fast frigates. (or so the description says). (i'm still in tier 1 missions btw).

any suggestions on how to improve/change the build? or even just fill those empty slots? oh and ignore the drones, please suggest what are good combat drones. I just grabbed those cus, they were the first on the list.
fenistil
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-02-19 09:24:01 UTC
As far as i am concerned: Drones is Gallente, Amarr is mighty lasers!

So yeah you can have an identity crisis and go for drone+amarr but later on you won't have much success with it. Any decent PVE or PVP fits out there use lasers instead of drones.

Apoc, Geddon, Abaddon - all the BS are lasers
Harb, Oracle - lasers
Omen, Mallers - lasers

Well pretty much if you go on the drone line you will be limiting yourself to: recons, 1 dessy, 1 cruiser, 1 BC in the Amarr line.

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Kisiar Akriana
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-02-19 09:45:09 UTC
yeah, the drones are mostly just till i build up the laser skills. My first flight with my coercer was very near '2 shots out of energy'.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-02-19 10:24:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Quote:
Medium Hull Repairer I


Ah, that burns...

Get rid of the hull repairer (hull tanking's not a viable strategy). At most, leave it in station so that you can avoid repair bills if you mess up. Stick another cap recharger or cap battery in there. Should help some.

You have empty low slots. Fill them with something.

Arbitrator is a cruiser. 10MN afterburner, not 1MN. 1MN is frigate sized

Personally I wouldn't fly the Arbi for missions. It's an EWAR boat. Maybe an Omen or a Maller, both will tank better and do more damage.

[Omen, Basic]
Experimental Armor Thermic Hardener I
Experimental Armor EM Hardener I
Medium Automated Carapace Restoration
Medium Automated Carapace Restoration
'Skadi' Coolant System I
'Skadi' Coolant System I

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator
Medium Peroxide Capacitor Power Cell

Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M
Focused Anode Medium Particle Stream I, Multifrequency M

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Probably over-tanked. The second repper is just for emergencies, for time to get the hell out. You can replace one of the heat sinks with a power relay if you're struggling with capacitor and drop to lower meta level gear if stuff's too expensive. Basic, boring fit, but it'll work.

Maller I'd fit much the same way.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-02-19 10:32:24 UTC
btw, if you're having problems with ninja salvagers and mission flippers, find a quieter system to run missions out of. There are lots of agents, you don't have to stay in the major mission/trade hub areas.
Mindrago Aldent
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-02-21 14:55:04 UTC
Kisiar Akriana wrote:
J'Poll wrote:
FYI...salvaging is free for all.


oh, I know. just at least have the courtesy to let me stop fighting to start salvaging "D


Salvaging Drones, I never leave home without them :-) And they'll salvage while your still clearing up the rats.
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#17 - 2013-02-21 18:11:59 UTC
Make sure you're aware of all the fitting skills too, very useful when trying to get that extra ounce out of your ship. And the cap skills all the more since you're using lasers.

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