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Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers

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Iceminer Prophet
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2011-10-27 04:37:36 UTC
Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers is better than running a dungeon.

My fellow miners, I think we should see this as an opportunity. Lets not begrudge those who are participating in this crusade against miners. If you are a miner take a hulk, tank it well get a friend to remote rep you and go mine.

Take into consideration that gankers are bad at math and will still try to attack your lone hulk with only a couple of cruisers, this will result in a hilarious concordoken. One thing that you must always remember is that a good tank does not mean shield boosters. You want buffer and resistances. You want small shield extenders and invulnerability fields.

I know that this works because there are several people doing it and many gankers have died in the process. I think killboard links are not allowed in the forum, but if you google "Test Alliance's killboard" you will see one system in the campaign against ice miners that has a 30% efficiency. The reason for the low efficiency is that there was some resistance in that system. I would mention the Goon killboard, but that is a horribly designed killboard, and they are missing a lot more deaths than Test Alliance is. One of the problems with Concord is that they kill gankers so fast is hard to get in the killmail.

If you do decide to do this remember that anything can be killed in high sec. No matter how much buffer you get, how high your resistances get or how many people you get to rep you. However, there are two other characteristics of a ganker that work on your favor. Gankers are not only bad at math, they are also lazy {if they realize it takes having to put together battlecruisers or heaven forbid a battleship, they will probably leave you alone}. The last factor working for you is that gankers are disorganized. I have had a couple of battleships die while trying to gank me because the second battleship started to shoot 5 seconds after the first and allowed the reps to cycle.

So far 19 gankers have died and my little hulk is still mining ice. My guess is that now that I am posting in the Eve Forums, I have just painted a target on the hulk and will find a fleet of a dozen tempests waiting for me next time I take it out. That would be fun for me. As much as I have been trying to get them to attack me the last two nights that I have been out mining, they are now refusing to engage, which of course makes me sad.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-27 05:12:32 UTC
You're learning, unlike those other miners. Congrats my good miner Big smile

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Trusty Jutspezic
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-10-27 05:39:19 UTC
Sup Druidrider heard you were fitting strip miners on your hulk c/d
Regis Nex
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-10-27 05:44:42 UTC
Good job! More miners like this one who knows how to adapt rather than whine.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-10-27 06:14:33 UTC
Badposting at k.com just wasn't enough for you was it

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

The Apostle
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-10-27 06:20:12 UTC
Regis Nex wrote:
Good job! More miners like this one who knows how to adapt rather than whine.

And waving that big red flag is sure gonna help his chances of survival. Not sure if he's mad or dashingly brave. Roll

A good point studiously made is having a Concord killboard so we can all laugh at the fails. Particularly CFC fails.

Best tears = CFC tears.

( I can see CFC leaders screaming at the fail troops..... WAT, SPLUTTER, SEND 1000 BATTLESHIPS!!!!!)

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]

The Apostle
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-10-27 06:21:12 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Badposting at k.com just wasn't enough for you was it

Oh shoot. You've upset 'em Iceminer....

Must be quite the effective bunny. +1

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]

Jita Alt666
#8 - 2011-10-27 07:15:27 UTC
You wish you had a 1000 battleships to send?
The Apostle
Doomheim
#9 - 2011-10-27 07:48:40 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
You wish you had a 1000 battleships to send?

Yes. It would be quite funny. Not sure I'd use them on ice miners though. A bit wasteful.

I'd probably find targets of relevance and importance. I dunno, G**ns?

Just saying. Cool

[i]Take an aspirin. If pain persists consult your local priest. WTB: An Austrian kangaroo![/i]

Aldan Romar
Doomheim
#10 - 2011-10-27 09:03:23 UTC
I applaude this show of courage and the will to stand instead of whine.

Personally, I tried to EFT-buffer-fit a Hulk, but I failed to reach an in my eyes significant EHP. But I have no experience with the alpha and DPS shelled out by suicide gankers. How much EHP would you need to sustain a drive-by-gank?
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-10-27 09:49:36 UTC
Iceminer Prophet wrote:
Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers is better than running a dungeon.




Shocked No you didn't....
People's Republic ofChina
My Other Capital Ship is Your Mom
#12 - 2011-10-27 10:29:10 UTC  |  Edited by: People's Republic ofChina
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-10-27 12:06:11 UTC
Iceminer Prophet wrote:

So far 19 gankers have died and my little hulk is still mining ice. My guess is that now that I am posting in the Eve Forums, I have just painted a target on the hulk and will find a fleet of a dozen tempests waiting for me next time I take it out. That would be fun for me. As much as I have been trying to get them to attack me the last two nights that I have been out mining, they are now refusing to engage, which of course makes me sad.



Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have? You had to have ganked it to hell. You're using a Hulk for ice mining when it should be a Mack so your productivity is already poor. How many ice mining lasers are you using now? 2? You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges. Then again, maybe that's the whole reason they're doing it so that they can get CCP to beef up barges so that Goon can fortify their bots.

Don't ban me, bro!

Apollo Gabriel
Kill'em all. Let Bob sort'em out.
Ushra'Khan
#14 - 2011-10-27 13:06:17 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
Iceminer Prophet wrote:

So far 19 gankers have died and my little hulk is still mining ice. My guess is that now that I am posting in the Eve Forums, I have just painted a target on the hulk and will find a fleet of a dozen tempests waiting for me next time I take it out. That would be fun for me. As much as I have been trying to get them to attack me the last two nights that I have been out mining, they are now refusing to engage, which of course makes me sad.



Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have? You had to have ganked it to hell. You're using a Hulk for ice mining when it should be a Mack so your productivity is already poor. How many ice mining lasers are you using now? 2? You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges. Then again, maybe that's the whole reason they're doing it so that they can get CCP to beef up barges so that Goon can fortify their bots.



MORE than those who've been ganked
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Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2011-10-27 13:16:35 UTC
Gealbhan wrote:
Iceminer Prophet wrote:
Embrace user generated content - have fun with gankers is better than running a dungeon.




Shocked No you didn't....



True story: When deadspace stuff was released CCP themselves called them dungeons.

So there you go!

at OP: It always feels good to have someone fail while they are trying to kill you in EVE. Good job!

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#16 - 2011-10-27 13:25:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Just a quick question for the op.

I used to run buffer tanked hulks during the geddens. Never had a loss and mined straight through.

I wondered though, would ECM drones help, or do they lock too slow to be effective?

Mr Epeen Cool
Skaz
Skazmanian Industries
#17 - 2011-10-27 15:20:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Skaz
This escalation might be fun to watch...

If only iceminers would like....cooperate?

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Iceminer Prophet
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2011-10-27 23:50:05 UTC
Mr Kidd wrote:
You can't be mining much ice. And that's really Goon's goal, preventing the mining of ice, isn't it. So either way they win due to the current stat of barges.
Really, I remember someone saying that " Those who refuse to bend will be broken.". If we are changing the whole thing because of a single miner with 3,000 hp of shield, then I have to question their commitment to the holy jihad!

Mr Kidd wrote:
Very impressive. But, um, what kind of productivity do you have?.
LOL read my original post, so far I am 19-0 Big smile I think that is good enough productivity. I am not going to lie, the ice mining is like icing on the cake :pun intended: right now I am after another type of commodity. Pirate

Aldan Romar wrote:
I applaude this show of courage and the will to stand instead of whine.

Personally, I tried to EFT-buffer-fit a Hulk, but I failed to reach an in my eyes significant EHP. But I have no experience with the alpha and DPS shelled out by suicide gankers. How much EHP would you need to sustain a drive-by-gank?
The EHP depends on what the ganker brings and how many friends he has. I suspect that gankers are both cheap and lack friends :foreveralone:

Ladie Harlot wrote:
Badposting at k.com just wasn't enough for you was it
Whatever do you mean.... there is no such website as k.com. I like the new name by the way.

Mr Epeen wrote:


I wondered though, would ECM drones help, or do they lock too slow to be effective?
Never tried it and to be honest gankings are over and done very quickly. Sometimes I wish I had a couple of friends in sensor boosted scorpions with me just in case they actually bring enough numbers. Nothing will stop you from getting the first salvo however. You can't ecm someone in high sec unless they are already red.


Charlotte The Harlot
La Villa Strangiato
#19 - 2011-10-28 00:20:56 UTC
I love floating over with my damaged Mac to scrape up whats left of gankers tears/ship after they fail at being a douche
Hershman
Creepers Corporation
#20 - 2011-10-28 00:30:51 UTC
Love this thread

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