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What about the bull.... with the active hardeners

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lichidu
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-02-18 18:42:27 UTC
I ve read your devblog about the next patch tomorow and when i was reaching to
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Active armor hardeners and shield hardeners no longer give a passive resistance bonus when not active.
Armor and shield compensation skills no longer give any bonus to active armor or shield hardeners.
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iWAS STUNNED!That meens that i train over 200 days and now i m loosing the 15% bonus when the module is not online.Srry to say CCP but this is ****....loosing so much time for 8 skills and loosing that bonus. I pvp a lot and yes..I USE ACTIVE HARDNERS AND THE 15% BONUS WHEN THE MODULE IS OFFLINE IS A MATTER OF DEAD OR ALIVE.i HOPE I GET MY SKILL POINTS BACK AT LEAST.THIS GAME IS BECOMING WORST TO WORSTER
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-02-18 18:44:21 UTC
lichidu wrote:
I ve read your devblog about the next patch tomorow and when i was reaching to
Quote:
Active armor hardeners and shield hardeners no longer give a passive resistance bonus when not active.
Armor and shield compensation skills no longer give any bonus to active armor or shield hardeners.
Quote:
iWAS STUNNED!That meens that i train over 200 days and now i m loosing the 15% bonus when the module is not online.Srry to say CCP but this is ****....loosing so much time for 8 skills and loosing that bonus. I pvp a lot and yes..I USE ACTIVE HARDNERS AND THE 15% BONUS WHEN THE MODULE IS OFFLINE IS A MATTER OF DEAD OR ALIVE.i HOPE I GET MY SKILL POINTS BACK AT LEAST.THIS GAME IS BECOMING WORST TO WORSTER


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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#3 - 2013-02-18 18:47:48 UTC
Oh, believe me, there's a large thread complaining about it when it was first mentioned a few weeks back.

Best get investing in EM rigs.
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#4 - 2013-02-18 18:48:41 UTC
Posting in a soon to be locked thread for ranting! Yay me!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-02-18 18:51:53 UTC
lichidu wrote:
That meens that i train over 200 days and now i m loosing the 15% bonus when the module is not online.
8 skills @ Rank 2 = 4M SP max, at the slowest possible training speed = 111 days… So no, you haven't.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-02-18 18:52:49 UTC
Oh noes! Our ACTIVE hardners will not do anything when not ACTIVE!!!!! What ever shall we do?!?!?!?

Oh yeah...Passive hardners/resistance amplifiers...duh.

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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#7 - 2013-02-18 18:54:03 UTC
Time to crash the market of deadspace membranes!

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#8 - 2013-02-18 18:54:27 UTC
I support lower EHP in PVP

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Merouk Baas
#9 - 2013-02-18 18:55:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Merouk Baas
Listen, the Active Hardeners had a 50% resistance when on, and 3% resistance when off.
Now they're going to have 50% resistance when on, and 0 when off.

You are complaining about a skill bonus of 15% of 3%, which, frankly, is TOO SMALL to even notice. It's 15% OF 3% = 3.45% not 15% + 3%. 0.45% resist bonus won't even show up in the UI.

May want to redact your original post; you are shouting in all caps about 0.4%, seriously.

The compensation skills are designed for the passive hardeners (such as energized kinetic membrane I), which have a 35% bonus without the skill, and 40% with the skill maxed (which makes them closer to the active equivalents).
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition
#10 - 2013-02-18 19:02:17 UTC
Hey, princess, htfu.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#11 - 2013-02-18 19:08:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Things change, deal with it.

I have all of the comp skills trained to 4, while the passive bonus to active shield hardeners was handy it's removal is hardly something to whine about, adapt your fits and HTFU. I've been onto the test server and tested my current builds with the new stats, they're hardly game breaking and easy enough to compensate for.

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Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#12 - 2013-02-18 19:11:34 UTC
Listen ***** Boy, you need to stop crying. So you wasted SP welcome to the club.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-02-18 19:12:36 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Things change, deal with it.

I have all of the comp skills trained to 4, while the passive bonus to active shield hardeners was handy it's hardly something to whine about, adapt your fits and HTFU. I've been onto the test server and tested my current builds with the new stats, they're hardly game breaking and easy enough to compensate for.

the usefulness of them started only when you cap ran dry in all honesty.

I will miss the extra bonus you were getting just by having them online tho. made things a little less squishy vs suicide gankers.

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Ana Fox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-02-18 19:13:26 UTC
lichidu wrote:
I pvp a lot and yes.


Your KB says what you are claiming is kinda false.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2013-02-18 19:14:34 UTC
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2013-02-18 19:15:32 UTC
^^ true enough, I pretty much always have an inactive invul fitted to my PvE ships, the resist bonus was nice and activating it when you accidentally the whole room is sometimes the difference between exploding or not, as of Retribution 1.1 I'll be fitting a DC II instead and using the mid slot it frees up for something else.

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