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Are mags and radar sites worth it?
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Complex Potential
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#1 - 2013-02-15 15:45:11 UTC
In comparison to DEDs I mean.

I'm looking into doing exploration and the bit I'm looking forward to is finding the odd pimpy bit of kit like a dead space mod. I know it wont happen very often, but just having a small chance is what will make it interesting.

Looking at the Eve wiki it appears that most of the DED sites have a chance to drop a dead space mod but the mags and radars are a bit boring looking frankly. Is there any super drop that can happen for mags or radars that makes it worth the time breaking into them?

Thanks

CP
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-02-15 15:52:05 UTC
short answer, no.
Complex Potential
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#3 - 2013-02-15 16:04:19 UTC
Pretty much what I expected tbh. Now I gotta decide if I free up 2 med slots by completely ignoring them or if I should keep them in just in case. Those 2 slots would be very handy.
Zhu Khan
Khanid Arbitrage Incorporated
#4 - 2013-02-15 16:17:51 UTC
Hisec or somewhere else? If hisec, I would definitely drop the analyzer (and salvager if you have that fitted). Hisec mag sites are the pits, radars tend to be better (particularly considering neither type takes much time to run). If your main reason for doing exploration is more for the "treasure hunt" feel of it, I'd just do DEDs. While mags and radars can be lucrative (particularly in non-hisec space), you're going to see a lot of the same rewards from site to site. You'll ocassionally get a special snowflake like a skillbook or BPC, but most of the time it's just salvage, decryptors, and odd manufacturing materials.
Complex Potential
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#5 - 2013-02-15 16:23:06 UTC
I suppose I'll be doing a combination of high sec and low sec with the odd null thrown in if I happen to find a WH route that drops me into a particularly quiet zone. From the sounds of it, I may leave both codebreaker and analyzer on since my ship is still perfectly capable without those two med slots.

Should be fun Big smile thanks.
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-02-15 16:52:23 UTC
If you're in Guristas space, an ECCM and a sebo would be much better choices for those slots. While you're doing a radar site for 5m I'm probing down the 4/10 ded one system over.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#7 - 2013-02-15 17:03:58 UTC
In lowsec radar and mag sites are you steady income, such as it is.

Not today spaghetti.
Complex Potential
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#8 - 2013-02-15 17:16:59 UTC
Rex Aparte wrote:
If you're in Guristas space, an ECCM and a sebo would be much better choices for those slots. While you're doing a radar site for 5m I'm probing down the 4/10 ded one system over.

Good point, well made. I think I'll follow your suggestion and race you to the 4/10 P
Rex Aparte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-02-15 17:26:15 UTC
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-02-15 18:29:50 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
In lowsec radar and mag sites are you steady income, such as it is.

Actually this is true for all sectors of space due to most players by-passing these sites in their quest to quickly find combat sites.

Yes combat sites are definitely the main meal. However, Radar and Mag sites are like bread and butter. Great to have with the main course and in itself, quick and easy. While it's not exactly the best meal to have, you definitely won't go hungry if that's all there is left available.


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Tomcio FromFarAway
Singularity's Edge
#11 - 2013-02-15 18:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomcio FromFarAway
Complex Potential wrote:
I suppose I'll be doing a combination of high sec and low sec with the odd null thrown in if I happen to find a WH route that drops me into a particularly quiet zone. From the sounds of it, I may leave both codebreaker and analyzer on since my ship is still perfectly capable without those two med slots.


Hisec mags - useless
Hisec radars - stable, low income, not that common

Lowsec radars - stable, low income, quite common
Lowsec mags - stable, low - medium income ( Sansha up to 150 mil and Bloods up to 100 mil, other spaces are less profitable )

Nullsec radars - variant, low - high income ( Serpentis and Angel space can drop up to ~250mil with current prices )
Nullsec mags - variant, low - big income ( Sansha and Bloods space can drop up to ~350mil with current prices )

Wormhole radars - useless
Wormhole mags c1 - c2 - useless
Wormhole mags c3 - c4 - kinda 'meh' but occasionally good
Wormhole mags c5 - comparable to good nullsec mag sites
Wormhole mags c6 - no experience hereSad

EDIT:
One more thing:
If you are in low or hi- stick to combat sites. Hi/low profession sites are good for newbie explorers.
Complex Potential
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#12 - 2013-02-15 22:59:56 UTC
Thanks for all the replies.

I have a final question. How important are deep space probes for finding DEDs? Do DEDs sometimes only show up at extreme range sometimes?

If that's the case I'll probably use a T3 since I can fit an expanded probe launcher without too many problems, if not then I'll probably use an Ishtar with a core probe launcher. Struggling to decide at the moment; both seem good options.
Gianath
Gallentian Legitimate Businessmen
#13 - 2013-02-15 23:55:14 UTC
I do all sites in high sec I come across. High sec mag sites usually don't pay out, but I guarantee the ones you pass by probably had 30mil isk worth of T2 rig materials inside (I've come across that a time or two, so it does happen). Since the mag sites only take 2 minutes to clear, it's silly to pass them up.

And you can survive fine without deep space probes, it just takes longer to scan down an entire system in some of the bigger galaxies. Once you finally get deep space probes, then you will be spoiled and never want to be without them again though. It's definitely something I would put high in my list of skill priorities as an explorer as time saved scanning equals more sites you get to run.
Complex Potential
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#14 - 2013-02-16 08:21:59 UTC
Thank you.

The deep space probes thing is more about the ship than the skills. They need an expanded probe launcher which means over 200 CPU which is a lot for most cruisers. With the Ishtar I would really struggle to fit one without compromising the ship's combat capabilities.

A Tengu on the other hand can fit an expanded launcher no problem but the cost involved is significantly higher.
Faulx
Brother Fox Corp
#15 - 2013-02-16 09:30:17 UTC
DSPs can definitely save a lot of time, but it's not about the distances at which sites spawn. To understand how, see:

Signature Strength Article (or DSP guide)
Sites Listed by Sig Str
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
#16 - 2013-02-18 07:18:11 UTC
I've gotten close to 500 million once out of a radar site in null, not counting the bounties on the rats. Most of the time though, they're not as lucrative as that. They're fun to do when you're not doing much else, and can be a nice steady income under the right circumstances. High security ones aren't so great. Low security ones are okay, good to pass the time with.

And for Mag sites... I stopped doing them a while back. Got bored with them because the rewards weren't that great.