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More information about repair drones.

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Lazarus Hawklite
We don't pay taxes here
#1 - 2013-02-15 18:57:25 UTC
After having purchased and learned the skills for repair drones, I learn that they can't be used on your own ship. This is incredibly stupid and annoying. If you aren't going to allow them to repair your own ship, then at least put a note on the description saying what it can and cannot do. That way people won't be wasting valuable training time on something that turns out to be useless for them. This almost occurred with the salvage drone as well, but thankfully it has a note saying what it is and isn't capable of doing.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-02-15 19:47:26 UTC
You cant use ANY drones on your own ship...because you cannot target YOURSELF. Why put a disclaimer on just repair drones? Why not put one on ECM drones..or even combat drones too.

It only takes 1 person to make a statement like this to have obvious stuff labeled. Hot Coffee is HOT, DO NOT EAT preperation H, and that door that leads to the outside..thats an EXIT.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Mike Voidstar
Voidstar Free Flight Foundation
#3 - 2013-02-15 20:42:10 UTC
Actually, they could easily make it so that the maintenence drones repaired their own ship through the AI. Just give them a menu option similar to the Salvage drones that says 'Repair', and if there is no target, they start repairing their home ship. Or they could just have a button that says Repair Mothership or something, so you would not have to clear targets to get them to do it.

I have heard it's a balance thing, that somehow having them repair their mothership would give an unfair advantage to droneboats, but I tend to disagree. Other than combat drones, a full flight of drones seems to be about equivilant to one module of that type (well, most EWAR drones don't really match that, they suck). Drone bonused ships have already given up a slot, and any function of the drones needs to be balance against the sacrifice of not having your combat drones out doing their thing. I can't imagine anyone would rather see a rack of sentries shooting at them instead of 5 heavy maintenence bots repairing while the Dominix or Ishtar came at you with just it's own guns, especially as you can just shoot the drones.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#4 - 2013-02-15 22:43:14 UTC
Mike Voidstar wrote:
Actually, they could easily make it so that the maintenence drones repaired their own ship through the AI. Just give them a menu option similar to the Salvage drones that says 'Repair', and if there is no target, they start repairing their home ship. Or they could just have a button that says Repair Mothership or something, so you would not have to clear targets to get them to do it.

I have heard it's a balance thing, that somehow having them repair their mothership would give an unfair advantage to droneboats, but I tend to disagree. Other than combat drones, a full flight of drones seems to be about equivilant to one module of that type (well, most EWAR drones don't really match that, they suck). Drone bonused ships have already given up a slot, and any function of the drones needs to be balance against the sacrifice of not having your combat drones out doing their thing. I can't imagine anyone would rather see a rack of sentries shooting at them instead of 5 heavy maintenence bots repairing while the Dominix or Ishtar came at you with just it's own guns, especially as you can just shoot the drones.

Rather than modifying drone interface (which it needs) CCP can just make them repair own base ship when rep drones are orbiting it in stand by/passive mode.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#5 - 2013-02-16 02:40:41 UTC
If repair drones gain the ability to repair their home ship, I will absolutely start keeping shield maintenance bots out all the time while I'm shooting things in my drone-capable gun-bonused ship.
Lazarus Hawklite
We don't pay taxes here
#6 - 2013-03-02 20:40:16 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
You cant use ANY drones on your own ship...because you cannot target YOURSELF. Why put a disclaimer on just repair drones? Why not put one on ECM drones..or even combat drones too.

It only takes 1 person to make a statement like this to have obvious stuff labeled. Hot Coffee is HOT, DO NOT EAT preperation H, and that door that leads to the outside..thats an EXIT.



You're acting like I'm an idiot and that it should be obvious that REPAIR drones can't REPAIR you're own ship. I think it's idiotic for it not to be like that. Am I supposed to believe that a race of people who can swap their consciousness between cloned bodies across an entire galaxy can't have a robot repair an object that its orbiting? Really? In every other video game on Earth healers can heal themselves, because it makes sense.

I can't target myself is the dumbest excuse ever. Are you telling me that the advanced computer system doesn't know where it's at? The first part of any program dealing with locations starts with the location of the object itself. I program CNC machines and 3d printers for a living, don't give me this "how can the drone know where it's mothership is at" garbage. If it doesn't know where your ship is, then how can it fly back into your cargo hold?

There is no reason why there shouldn't be at least a mention that it cannot be used on your own ship. Of course they wouldn't say combat drone can't attack your own ship, that's a negative response, healing is a positive action = should be used on yourself. That's like making a fantasy RPG where healing potions can only be used on others because that's how poisons work, completely moronic.

I just want one line of text saying "Cannot repair ship of owner" in the information box. It's not like this is some ridiculously hard thing to implement.