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When will Logistics pilots get on Kill Mails?
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Ra'Shyne Viper
Native Freshfood
#81 - 2013-02-15 08:27:19 UTC
What does this actually improve if implemented?

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zurich93
Bring Back 10p Space Raiders
#82 - 2013-02-15 08:49:15 UTC
Bumping this, there is no reason for logi not to be part of the kill mail system, If you are repairing someone who directly kills someone else you have clearly helped in killing that person. It would be so much easier to track how many kills you have been part of if logi were added to the kill mails that they have helped acquire.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#83 - 2013-02-15 08:52:42 UTC
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
What does this actually improve if implemented?



Killmails are a big source of enjoyment for many pvpers, and a way to track accomplishments. Some short sided players will claim that killmails don't matter to them, and they don't mind if they are on them or not when they are in logi, but they fail to account for how future corporations will potentially view that same player, a year from then. Should they have played logi heavily, attended tons of gangs, been involved in thousands of kills, and had a good pure logi fit doing maximum reppage and tank, if they got on no killmails, they would have a giant blank spot in their kill history, but losses for any logi they used, resulting in a very bad kill:death ratio, that many corps DO care about. Whereas if they actually got on killmails, it shows involvement, it shows participation, and it shows that the logistics player does indeed fly logistics, and is responsible in part for the killmails he was on.

They may not matter to YOU, but they matter to prospective corps, and how other people view your pvp attendance.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2013-02-15 09:03:49 UTC
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
What does this actually improve if implemented?



It improves the likelihood of people like me repping your dying ass in a battle instead of rushing out the EC300s to get on the mail.
Whitehound
#85 - 2013-02-15 09:41:43 UTC
Jada Maroo wrote:
It improves the likelihood of people like me repping your dying ass in a battle instead of rushing out the EC300s to get on the mail.

With your attitude do I bet your mates die like flies, because of you. You will be watching pron during fights, read KB stats, and do anything just not for having to watch your mates.

Loss is meaningful. Therefore is the loss of meaning likewise meaningful. It is the source of all trolling.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#86 - 2013-02-15 10:44:15 UTC
pathetic thread.

Either you fly logistic and stick to the role that is assigned and your corp rewards it accordingly...

or you fly a combat vessel.
If there is enough time to whore on a mail you still can do that with a "whore-drone" as it was mentioned. If there is a lot of action going on the logi has nothing else to think than "how to keep fleet members alive".
Low sec perspective.

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Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#87 - 2013-02-15 11:50:21 UTC
Whitehound wrote:

With your attitude do I bet your mates die like flies, because of you. You will be watching pron during fights, read KB stats, and do anything just not for having to watch your mates.


I occasionally click on a repper when I hear them scream.
Generals4
#88 - 2013-02-15 12:05:25 UTC
Or we could just remove Kill Mails Cool

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#89 - 2013-02-15 12:37:59 UTC
Zack Korth wrote:
no pew pew = no kill mails = no glory, and since i DO see a killmail as a PvP reward, it makes me wonder why anyone flys them.


Because for some, winning a battle is more important than personal stats.
You know, strategy and tactics over selfishness.
Drosal Inkunen
Spreadsheeters
#90 - 2013-02-15 17:20:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Drosal Inkunen
Arronicus wrote:
Ra'Shyne Viper wrote:
What does this actually improve if implemented?



Killmails are a big source of enjoyment for many pvpers, and a way to track accomplishments. Some short sided players will claim that killmails don't matter to them, and they don't mind if they are on them or not when they are in logi, but they fail to account for how future corporations will potentially view that same player, a year from then. Should they have played logi heavily, attended tons of gangs, been involved in thousands of kills, and had a good pure logi fit doing maximum reppage and tank, if they got on no killmails, they would have a giant blank spot in their kill history, but losses for any logi they used, resulting in a very bad kill:death ratio, that many corps DO care about. Whereas if they actually got on killmails, it shows involvement, it shows participation, and it shows that the logistics player does indeed fly logistics, and is responsible in part for the killmails he was on.

They may not matter to YOU, but they matter to prospective corps, and how other people view your pvp attendance.


Also, it would allow corps to look for pilots that are actually good logis. Yeah, that hurts the bad player, but the corps and good logis benefit.