Ships & Modules

Rattlesnakes are cheaper now, may be because of the problems with drones now, good times to buy at least one of those

I've used on for L4 missions because it was the easiest ship for me to try the new drone AI changes, but I can't see me using it for anything else, at least not with rubbishy skills.

I wanted to take it to the last room in AE, but haven't been playing all that much recently, as EvE isn't the most restful game to play when you're constantly in tachycardia episodes.

looks like it went back to what it should have been... last spring someone manipulated it heavily. I'm surprised it took so long to get back down, and hell correcting for the min cost changes it is worth even less now than it was a year ago.

although I got lucky when I bought mine someone put it on contracts for 67mil instead of 670mil

I got one as well for that. TPG here is very fluid, and some weeks I get a LOT of flakyness, so it's my emergency use ship, otherwise i just use a Raven.

7500 dps or one ecm mod

I'm curious about the viability of the Rattlesnake for a newer pilot. Currently, I'm sitting at around 2m SP. I'm very missile focused, but as I'm still pretty new, most of my skills are at 3 or 4. I've only recently started running level 4 missions and have been using a Navy Scorpion. Drones V will finish training today, that should give you an idea of where I'm sitting.

With my Navy Scorpion, I'm at about 320 DPS with my skills, including drones. I will be training Drone Interfacing next, for the large DPS boost to drones that comes with it, so that number should greatly improve over the next couple of days.

I do okay solo. It takes awhile, but my fit is solid, and the tremendous tank of the SNI helps my lack of DPS. The smaller ships give me the most trouble because I can't apply decent damage with Cruise Missiles. I decline the more difficult missions such as AE and Worlds Collide, because the web/scram frigates would end me.

Is the Rattler a bit more forgiving for lower SP pilots, or is it a ship that requires high skills to get anything out of it?

Gonna thread hijack

This is what i use

High power
4x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
2x Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium power
1x Sensor Booster II
1x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
1x Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
1x X-Large Shield Booster II
2x EM Ward Field II
1x Target Painter II

Low power
3x Ballistic Control System II
2x Power Diagnostic System II
1x Drone Damage Amplifier II

Rig Slot
3x Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Charges
824x Mjolnir Cruise Missile

Drones
5x Hobgoblin II
5x Hammerhead II
5x Garde II
5x Ogre II

Straight copy paste from client.

This fit is very old and obviously outdated. But works ok . I 'm open to suggestions though

I fly a Rattlesnake in Null Sec.

In almost every other space I would dual box a Tengu and Machariel for anomalies and exploration. The set up was a little weak in Rogue Drone and Sansha space, but rocks in Serpentis, Gurista and Angle Space.

But the set up sucked massive donkey balls in Blood Raider space. At 1st I put my Tengu Alt in a Navy Raven. It was ok, but not spectacular. Then one day I had to use the Tengu/Raven alt somewhere else to help with some corp stuff, but i still wanted to make some isk so i fired up another alt and fit a Rattlesnake I had forgotten i owned (i'd left it in a station when the old alliance I was in left that space).

Machariel + Rattlesnake with Omnidirectional tracking links, drone damage mods and Garde 2s = massive slaughter of the hated Blood Raiders lol. I was in straight "why didn't i think of this before" land lol. And the rattlesnakes passive tank means I laugh wen neuted.

Assuminng you have the shield comps trained to at least 4 and the the caldari bs 4 you could help your cap out a bit by splurging on gist B resist amps. 4'd out they are equivalent (if not slightly igher) resists than your active t2 specific hardeners. But I personally like my passive resists....you coudl throw on the gist active resists for some cap savings as well. I'd do this to get some cap back to pull a CCC for a sentry augment rig.

Only the em's are generally pricey I have found. And since rattler low on the gank radar even if scannered the 50/50 chance of the expensive gist fitting dropping is not going to cover the cost of the gank to bring her down most times.

Do you need the sebo? Even before AI aggro switching unless you were really motivated to train e-war drones 5 to get every inch of drone range you wanted I found the natural lock range worked nice with the mix of cruise and drone range if you wanted to let them go far. Some other mod was usually a better bet. Now with drone aggro switch generally its best to keep those drones closer to home. Just my take on this anyway.


And like above do moar drone augment. BCU not helping your cruise much imo.

My limited experience so far:

* You can run L4's with a Drake tank and it's rather bad damage, VERY slowly. In the Rattler I can fit 800 (NPC) instead of a Drake 500 without even trying, and It's rather easy to get much better dps then Drake missiles with half decent sentry skills, I think I was doing 450+ and I was only playing around with the new AI with T1 sentries and skills on 4.

* I put on an 800 omni and full aggroed last room in Dread Pirate Scarlet, shields got to 55% and held there - I did kill the scram frigs, I don't have a deathwish :) - and pocket 3 in World Collide barely registers, as even a Drake with Angel tank at 550 can hover on not breaking.

* Just based on EFT - After this post I've decided to to up some drone skills. Currently my T1 Gards just do over 500, and with Drone Interfacing V and T2's that becomes around 650, and apparently with "all V's" T2 Gards alone are meant to top out at 750, and that's with 3xT2 damage amps. Up to 880 DPS with T1 Cruise Missiles [Unfort is counting ALL missiles skills on V as well]

I think it's probably the most lazy arsed way to run missions possible, but until such a time that missions are made interesting (ie some RANDOM stuff actually happens), it seems a standard way to make basic income.

I normally just fly a damn Raven, but after the AI changes I wanted to see what all the fuss was all about: It feels like sniping children in a kindergaten, difference now is that sometimes they throw toys at the sentries and you have to hide them for a few seconds while the NPC goldfish-like memory kicks in.

It feels really really wrong flying one in missions.

AS you have to stay with the sentries a lot, it slows getting gate to gate, that's about the worse thing really.