EVE General Discussion

joking: Lead by example. Don't vocalize your concerns.



CCP can't do it. Even with a lot of dev resources focused on WoD/WiS type code, CCP admitted that they were unable to deliver the WiS content to Eve in a timely fashion. (There's a dev blog/news item stating that it was a coding/coordination nightmare to push WoD avatar content to Eve.)


No, the FiS (Flying in Space) players are the majority of the customers. Folks playing Eve because of WiS are definitely in the minority because a) WiS hasn't been delivered yet, and b) most customers who start playing a game based mainly on vapor-ware features just simply can't be a majority, meaning I refuse to believe that that many people can be that stupid.



Simply not true.

I am glad that some are able to discuss in a very civilised way like adults.

Jade, I don't want a system that messes up the game. Sure, if I think there is value in spend some money to buy a nice Titan instead of a nice IWC then by all means. I am sure no sane person will do that. If there is a need, then PLEX is there. However, some micro transaction features like buying skill points don't kill the game. I buy skill points and they are for me, and me alone. My skill points won't interfere with your skill points and the advantage is localised to me alone unless you are afraid of a one day old newb killing you in game in an interceptor match?

What I am voicing is not only that I want everything micro transactions. I don't mind having some form of it like I love Fighting in Stations or FiS with 3D characters. It will feel like better than Earth and Beyond or any other because you have spaceships and actual characters fighting and interacting. It is fun.

My concern on terminating micro transactions and not looking at it further is that some players like do love Eve but we have no time. Some of us, like I do, work 12 - 14 hours a day and play time if I am lucky after work is only an hour before calling it a night by midnight. Sure, I could get CCP to allow me to buy items directly from them so I can save time but that is a bit too much and I can sacrifice that and accept that I can still do that with PLEX. However, for anything else that won't interact with players, there's micro transactions.

I am future looking because that is what I do. Sure, I know there will be some players mocking or ridicule me but at the end of the day, I know I will triumph because it is the right path forward. Everyone is entitled to their views and I am giving my views that CCP can also make money from players like me. Also the playerbase benefits from having a +1 in game. Not forgetting that my subscription will also allow Eve to grow and have more devs. Everyone benefits. The alternative is playerbase don't grow and maybe shrinks because there are other games out there as well and everyone else loses.

I know some won't agree but I am used to it because my job in real life allows me to disagree with others and I make money from it. It is a decent living, hard work and not much time to play Eve so my opinion on how it could benefit players like me. Whether you agree or not, it doesn't matter but it is still a valid point. Like half a year ago, I was suggesting pay more fee for more content and development and I was talking about inflation and everyone said there wasn't inflation and mocked me. At the end, we have seen who has been right so far.

Like I said, I am very used to have different views.

Making skill points available for sale would completely break the game. I wouldn't hesitate to cancel immediately if that happened.

It would be cool to have a fully functional WiS system going, but CCP proved they couldn't do it as things stand today.

As far as I know and it seems to be true in many real life examples, technical issues can be solved or mitigated. One way is to pay the right money to sort it out. If paying an extra few dollars to contribute to a better gaming experience, I am sure that is an option.





Well, maybe for the time being, I post in the forum because I still think micro transactions and Fighting in Stations could still enrich this game.

From what you're saying you have limited time to play and would like to accelerate the skill learning on your character.

This game is a character building game, built over time, not instant skills.

If you have the money to throw at the game you have PLEX to gain your isk.

You have the character bazaar to buy your character already skilled for your use.

You already have ways to get around your problem (you see it as a problem, I don't as you can train offline).

Don't try to spoil it for everyone else just because you want instant gratification.


So buy your PLEXes and your character, get down to 0.0 and lose a few Titans.




Micro transactions don't care about those as long it sticks to clothes and accessories.

As for WiS I don't really care about that either, I do use the CQ though. But I think that people have this wonderful idea of what it could be like. I also think they'll be disappointed with the finished product (if it ever gets finished) if the quality of CQs is anything to go by.

Other games do that kind of thing better anyway.


But I'm happy that CCP has chosen to sort out the original game (and original direction) before ploughing into the bolt on WiS.

How could it break Eve if a player buys skill points? The points are only for the character and nothing else. It helps to unlock new ships and items. You still fight with a ship regardless of whether the player is high or low skill points.

Asking CCP to sell non-voting company shares? I doubt they want that. On the other hand, I don't mind convertible notes provided if there is someone to insure the swaps.

You're a self proclaimed casual gamer of eve online, nobody cares what you think is best for the long term development of the game.

Single player Eve would rock! I would own!