Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No.

Thank you.

The current system is complicated enough. And hell no to XP grinding.

You got that backwards. People will be shooting their alts, and maxed out crew prices will be a joke after day 1. Any kind of grind, whether isk or xp, must be in pve only, or it will be exploited to hell and back.

great. another poster who does not know how to use search feature or look in commonly proposed ideas...

as to ur idea, i'm struggling to see why this is 'essential' to our experience. we already have modules like rigs. they are called rigs. they also get destroyed when u lose ur ship. u can pretend they are ur crew.

maybe we just take the word 'essential' to mean different things.

While I agree there are plenty out there who don't care anymore about the non-immortals, there are ones who could care just like in all pantheons there are gods who are about and protect mortals and those who don't.

There are two high level designs this thing can take: they can either be attached to a ship ("I served on the blah, blah, blah") or a captain ("I served under blah blah").

If attached to the ship:

Crew should gain XP while the ship is active. The XP gain should be slow.

Crew are attached to a ship and lost with the ship.

If attached to a capsuleer:

Crew are attached to a captain and have specialties that they get better in while your active ship is equipped with modules of their chosen type. XP gain would be very slow (or non existent).

For both types:

Crew must be paid. The higher their XP, the higher the ISK payment that goes out to them. Crew that doesn't get paid, goes out to the crew market. Crew are paid every X days, months -- something.

One or more skills allow you to pay the crew less (e.g. Crew Loyalty).

Crew cannot be traded -- they are not property.

However:

Ultimately I don't think CCP is going to go with yet another thing that keeps people from throwing ships at each other. They want destruction and they want ships blowing up left and right and that's mostly incompatible with things that get better with time and aren't easily replaceable. CCP will need to be careful about this, but they've had years to think about it and come up with designs. I just don't think it's going to be high on their priority any time soon.

But CCP wants you to risk your ships. They want you to PvP and loose them. They want you to go out into null and get blown to bits. That's what keeps the Eve economy going. Anything that makes people less wanting to risk their ships is likely to get shot down out of hand.

There's design space for crews, but they need to be something special and new.

grinding is bads m'kay.

seriously it ruins casual gameplay and most eve players have full time jobs. Botters would train the best crews and sell them on the market for ridiculous amounts of isk so they can have even more wealth than they already have. Bot mining is bad enough which only sells the same crap as everyone else, just more of it. But at least it doesn't create rare or more powerful hardware that would be in high demand but low supply. And to compete, normal players would have to go leave their jobs so they can also grind 23.5/7. there is no honour in grinding, only tedium and boredom. just no.

U are ur crew, and ur crew gains experience as U gain experience. This allows U to make the difference in ur fights and the honor u get from playing the game is the extra things U learn while playing.

No.

Thank you.

When introduced rigs were necessary; the ship system was slightly stagnant and in need of some new variable/customization. Same as for overheating.

The crew thing could work in a similar way, but I think in the current state this would only add enthropia and duplicate variables; we are already at the edge, also adding new brand ships is a problem is better to rework the existing ones.

I see more room for the crews idea as personnel needed for new modular POS system or for some new PI module.