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Idea to getting most scammers out of Jita

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LazyDeer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-02-10 09:06:46 UTC  |  Edited by: LazyDeer
Let begin with the facts.
Jita public chat = scams spammed every half second.
Players falling for scams = mostly nobody
Why? either people know better or don't have enough money to fall for the scam in the first place.

Solution = Temporarily Mute -> Permanent Mute -> Temporarily Ban (ideas just ideas)

Step 1) Install a small feature into the game that allows players to report other players based on how terrible of a scam there trying to pull off.
Step 2 ) game flags those players not anything visible, just a flag for You (CCP) Can see them & track them.
Step 3) Review or design a program that views how many players this guy scams a day, or week or month or year or so on. If there player doesn't meet the quota Apply Solution!
-Quota
* Scammers which are not profitable Get Solution ( due to no one falling for there scam or because players do not find it clever and try to keep them in business).

Reasoning behind all of these? This is a game that is suppose to make you use your Brain! It pains me to see the many of which, trying to scam and failing. why because it is to easy identified as a scam. I gladly Block, but the masses of retardation is Too vast and I can not keep up I need your Help.
Merdaneth
Angel Wing.
#2 - 2013-02-10 09:10:01 UTC
I used the 'block' function. Does what you suggest.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-02-10 09:12:31 UTC
LazyDeer
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-02-10 09:13:48 UTC  |  Edited by: LazyDeer

Its almost like you are taking this seriously.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#5 - 2013-02-10 09:15:56 UTC
Soon, I present you with *****.*** which should make your lives a lil bit less spammy Smile

/c

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#6 - 2013-02-10 09:16:57 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
Let begin with the facts.
Jita public chat = scams spammed every half second.
Players falling for scams = mostly nobody


1. Not all of them are scams. Just block the spammers.
2. If that were true, they wouldn't be scamming there, would they?

tl;dr Use the Block feature.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

xacio
Internal Revenue Service
#7 - 2013-02-10 09:34:00 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Soon, I present you with *****.*** which should make your lives a lil bit less spammy Smile

/c


Chribba.com ?
Officer Nyota Uhura
#8 - 2013-02-10 09:48:21 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Soon, I present you with *****.*** which should make your lives a lil bit less spammy Smile

/c


delete.exe?
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#9 - 2013-02-10 09:50:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ACE McFACE
Move Jita to Sobaseki, then when the spammers move there move the hub again! PROBLEM SOLVED. Ill take my 10b in Nightmares if you please.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.

Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#10 - 2013-02-10 09:54:16 UTC
Hmmm I wonder if CREST is going to have block-list functionality... I'm looking at you, Chribba.

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#11 - 2013-02-10 11:07:59 UTC
Just give Jita local a CSPA charge of 10k to 1mil and things will get quiet really quick.
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
#12 - 2013-02-10 11:21:55 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Just give Jita local a CSPA charge of 10k to 1mil and things will get quiet really quick.


Ban macro spammers and things will get quiet really quick.
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
#13 - 2013-02-10 13:46:17 UTC
I already use ccp's highly effective anti scam spam filter. I close local.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.

NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2013-02-10 13:53:47 UTC
Actually theasiest method would be a word count that when it notes you pulling the same contract with in 30 seconds 4 times it mutes you for 30 +- 10 seconds.
Or for real lolz, whenever you get muted you have to fill out a captcha to regain posting.
Now scamming can not be done afk!
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2013-02-10 14:12:04 UTC
A simpler solution: don't read Jita local

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#16 - 2013-02-10 14:20:46 UTC
NEONOVUS wrote:
Actually theasiest method would be a word count that when it notes you pulling the same contract with in 30 seconds 4 times it mutes you for 30 +- 10 seconds.
Or for real lolz, whenever you get muted you have to fill out a captcha to regain posting.
Now scamming can not be done afk!


Didn´t opening trade windows have the same effect?

Requires the scammerspammer to be in the same station, of course....

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NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2013-02-10 14:43:26 UTC
Nerath Naaris wrote:
NEONOVUS wrote:
Actually theasiest method would be a word count that when it notes you pulling the same contract with in 30 seconds 4 times it mutes you for 30 +- 10 seconds.
Or for real lolz, whenever you get muted you have to fill out a captcha to regain posting.
Now scamming can not be done afk!


Didn´t opening trade windows have the same effect?

Requires the scammerspammer to be in the same station, of course....

No they use a macro that doesnt deal with it.
Now if they made trade windows need to be declined or accepted and they stayed on until acted upon...
Well the new duel will help for all of 30 seconds.
They are using action recording software that continuously replays the same set of commands
None of which opening a window interrupts, unless the window forces you to act on it.
The bots get messed up as they have to act on the window but dont know how.
Heck my mouse could be a better spammer than most of these bots, well at least until its noticed I post 15 seconds apart and the same thing each time.
One guy realized that and so had copy pate for a few different ads.

But no the easiest method is pattern recognition for the postings being an exact time apart and consisting of similar messages (easiest way to check is if a phrase continuously repeats)
Perana
Wartime Piratical Industries
#18 - 2013-02-11 00:25:39 UTC
How about setting up a system similar to what Ebay uses?
Show some useable information and give the character a feedback based security clearance.

Character : George
Number of transactions: 135
Likes: 105
Dislikes: 5
Neutral: 25
Blocked by: 33
Risk estimate: +8.1

Character : Frank
Number of transactions: 135
Likes: 5
Dislikes: 125
Neutral: 5
Blocked by: 133
Risk estimate: -8.1

Obviously this plan is weak. Alt to Alt transfers would be used to manipulate the numbers within minutes.
Maybe somebody could expand on this line of thought?
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
#19 - 2013-02-11 00:57:16 UTC
easy fix is to switch to a dead channel. Make one if you don't have like me an empty 1 man corp channel.

Not like this makes you miss much.

if there was an honest to goodness 750 mil uber bs on contract....there'd be no need to spam it in local. It be bought already.
Or the omg, this guy didn't decompress his ores and I have no money to buy it....someone would have snagged it up if legit. Or after 3 years...the chuckle you get get from the cheap charon contract with the carbon in the contract just not as good as it used to be. PLex scam....if they are willing to sell plex at 400 mil, they would have sold to buy orders at 500+ mil as it be 100 mill at least over what they wanted anyway. Like I said....don't see the chat you aren't missing much.


Jita as far as normal chat is dead. Now rens or dodixie....you get a better local chat worth watching. And the spammers don't even ruin it as much.


Solun Malleus
Malleus Enterprises
#20 - 2013-02-11 01:02:59 UTC
1) Finish Incarna, open up station space.
2) Add Dust style small arms to EVE.
3) Take out bounties on scammers.
4) Kick in the door to their quarters, kill their clones until they relocate or choose reputable career paths.

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