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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#41 - 2013-02-08 16:51:14 UTC
You do realize how incredibly expensive and short-lived that kind of consumable content is to develop?

As opposed to giving us, the players, more tools to create our own content, and keeping the current ones balanced against each others.

I play to enjoy the company of my space brosefs, to crush my enemy and see them driven before me and hear the lamentation of their women.

Eve is real. The players are real. They are random, surprising and intriguing, creating a more immersive experience than scripted content ever can.

Get to know the characters behind their screens? And embrace the fact there are hundreds of thousands of them.


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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#42 - 2013-02-08 16:55:04 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
not really im saying they should either invest in more manpower or stop fixing stuff that works and fix stuff that doesnt. by the way man if they add more pve, that wouldnt stop you from paying for pvp yould be paying the same price for both.

and ccp would have higher player numbers and you possibly more people to shoot.

the reason SWTOR didnt do well was because it was terribly executed , it had nothing to do with its feature list or the games financial or gameplay structures.


Investing in more manpower to create single player content costs money, where do you think that money will come from? I'm not saying that EVE having more numbers is bad, what concerns me is the type of people that type of content attracts. See the barge buff or the constant cries for any player interaction in highsec to be removed as an example.


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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#43 - 2013-02-08 17:00:32 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Roime wrote:
You do realize how incredibly expensive and short-lived that kind of consumable content is to develop?

As opposed to giving us, the players, more tools to create our own content, and keeping the current ones balanced against each others.

I play to enjoy the company of my space brosefs, to crush my enemy and see them driven before me and hear the lamentation of their women.

Eve is real. The players are real. They are random, surprising and intriguing, creating a more immersive experience than scripted content ever can.

Get to know the characters behind their screens? And embrace the fact there are hundreds of thousands of them.




the content doesnt have to be shortlived it can be incorporated into complex mechanics that become gameplay additions like solo terrestrial exploration .

i would say if many planets had terrestrial exploration aspects with much variation it would make the game an amazing place to be especially if you had to analyze the environments first and equip accordingly in order to be able to survive. it would mean more content and if done by real artists with game experience could make eve blow up. Would it be more expensive than a new game? would it maybe give eve the numbers of a quarter of wow? (which would be like four times as much as eve has now) are questions it brings along.... and i guarantee you, making eve complete and expansive could possibly give it the grit it needs to live forever.

btw the terrestrial exp could also be coop

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#44 - 2013-02-08 17:03:22 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
not really im saying they should either invest in more manpower or stop fixing stuff that works and fix stuff that doesnt. by the way man if they add more pve, that wouldnt stop you from paying for pvp yould be paying the same price for both.

and ccp would have higher player numbers and you possibly more people to shoot.

the reason SWTOR didnt do well was because it was terribly executed , it had nothing to do with its feature list or the games financial or gameplay structures.


Investing in more manpower to create single player content costs money, where do you think that money will come from? I'm not saying that EVE having more numbers is bad, what concerns me is the type of people that type of content attracts. See the barge buff or the constant cries for any player interaction in highsec to be removed as an example.




of course it costs money .... ccp has money .... i am conviced it invests it unwisely though as a side note.
the people the content will atract will not be idiots because they will still have to cope with the rest of eves complexity... so flying to these planets the still need to learn to scan and fit ships and pvp wisely ... it wont attract more pimply teenagers... and if it does it will force them to behave or be blown up or get broke.... that is what we original eve players are for ;)

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#45 - 2013-02-08 17:03:41 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Roime wrote:
You do realize how incredibly expensive and short-lived that kind of consumable content is to develop?

As opposed to giving us, the players, more tools to create our own content, and keeping the current ones balanced against each others.

I play to enjoy the company of my space brosefs, to crush my enemy and see them driven before me and hear the lamentation of their women.

Eve is real. The players are real. They are random, surprising and intriguing, creating a more immersive experience than scripted content ever can.

Get to know the characters behind their screens? And embrace the fact there are hundreds of thousands of them.




the content doesnt have to be shortlived it can be incorporated into complex mechanics that become gameplay additions like solo terrestrial exploration .

i would say if many planets had terrestrial exploration aspects with much variation it would make the game an amazing place to be especially if you had to analyze the environments first and equip accordingly in order to be able to survive. it would mean more content and if done by real artists with game experience could make eve blow up. Would it be more expensive than a new game? would it maybe give eve the numbers of a quarter of wow? (which would be like four times as much as eve has now) are questions it brings along.... and i guarantee you, making eve complete and expansive could possibly give it the grit it needs to live forever.


EVE doesn't need anywhere near the numbers that silly other MMO's have & it will never get them because the vast majority of those gamers are lazy. Name me another game that has consistantly gained more subscribers each year than the year before.

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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#46 - 2013-02-08 17:07:44 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Roime wrote:
You do realize how incredibly expensive and short-lived that kind of consumable content is to develop?

As opposed to giving us, the players, more tools to create our own content, and keeping the current ones balanced against each others.

I play to enjoy the company of my space brosefs, to crush my enemy and see them driven before me and hear the lamentation of their women.

Eve is real. The players are real. They are random, surprising and intriguing, creating a more immersive experience than scripted content ever can.

Get to know the characters behind their screens? And embrace the fact there are hundreds of thousands of them.




the content doesnt have to be shortlived it can be incorporated into complex mechanics that become gameplay additions like solo terrestrial exploration .

i would say if many planets had terrestrial exploration aspects with much variation it would make the game an amazing place to be especially if you had to analyze the environments first and equip accordingly in order to be able to survive. it would mean more content and if done by real artists with game experience could make eve blow up. Would it be more expensive than a new game? would it maybe give eve the numbers of a quarter of wow? (which would be like four times as much as eve has now) are questions it brings along.... and i guarantee you, making eve complete and expansive could possibly give it the grit it needs to live forever.


EVE doesn't need anywhere near the numbers that silly other MMO's have & it will never get them because the vast majority of those gamers are lazy. Name me another game that has consistantly gained more subscribers each year than the year before.


im not discussing what ccp wants or needs.... im talking about what many eve players want and are asking for maybe not in the last two comments but in some of my first.... also originaly this post was about eve seemingly having working systems being described as broken in order to give ccp inscentive to fix stuff without too much effot ...OR impliment a nother financial heist on us like the AUR store was. this occurrance was the reason i am doubting ccp in the first place after all the good it did. i see greed in that one move . greed corruption and complacency.

Legba
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#47 - 2013-02-08 17:08:07 UTC
What an awful, awful thread.

Single player content? EVE sells itself on being a sandbox, putting development time into single player content would not achieve anything for people who currently like the core game, and would only serve to attract people who will simply leave when they complete that content and realise they don't like the actual game hidden behind it, and that's assuming CCP could even do decent single player content, PvE has historically not been one of EVE's strong points.

Which brings me on to Incarna/WiS. IIRC, the only time in EVE history an expansion has caused a noticable drop in the number of subscriptions? Enough said.

As for CCP treating EVE like a finished product, it's quite the opposite. Constant fixing of existing issues is something you do for unfinished products, and that's the misstep (or one of them) that CCP made with Incarna. Big bold expansions into new territory are for products which truly are finished and which you can leave behind. EVE's playerbase (i.e. the ones who continue to hang around and support the game long term) have always been asking for improvements to the core game, and with the abject failure of Incarna, CCP got the impetus they needed to respond to that.


tl;dr: CCP are working on making EVE the best EVE it can be rather than trying to make it into something new, the former being a strategy which is sound in principle and is working out just fine in practice right now, the latter being a strategy which has been tried and failed. Your post is bad and you should feel bad.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-02-08 17:11:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
im not discussing what ccp wants or needs.... im talking about what many eve players want and are asking for maybe not in the last two comments but in some of my first.... also originaly this post was about eve seemingly having working systems being described as broken in order to give ccp inscentive to fix stuff without too much effot ...OR impliment a nother financial heist on us like the AUR store was. this occurrance was the reason i am doubting ccp in the first place after all the good it did. i see greed in that one move . greed corruption and complacency.


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#49 - 2013-02-08 17:16:07 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
no but they could have a lot more if it was there and it was awesome because some people just like a good storyline or are you telling me uve never enjoyed a singleplayer game before


I've played plenty of single player games & loved them. I love them because the developers are able to dedicate all of their resources in to making that single player game great. You're asking CCP to pull resources & manpower away from the multiplayer aspect which is the lifeblood of EVE & use it to create more single player content. If I want to play a single player game then I'll play one, but I'm not going to pay money to the company on a monthly basis for it & I'm quite honestly shocked & surprised at how many people seem to think this is ok. There's a reason SWTOR didn't do very well.

/Thread.

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SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#50 - 2013-02-09 12:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
im not discussing what ccp wants or needs.... im talking about what many eve players want and are asking for maybe not in the last two comments but in some of my first.... also originaly this post was about eve seemingly having working systems being described as broken in order to give ccp inscentive to fix stuff without too much effot ...OR impliment a nother financial heist on us like the AUR store was. this occurrance was the reason i am doubting ccp in the first place after all the good it did. i see greed in that one move . greed corruption and complacency.


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.


we are getting off topic here.

i didnt stress sp content to begin with initially i wanted more and new features and that is all . i would like more engaging and interactable pve content be it single or multi player. i just want more stuff to do in eve so that eve becomes a more complete universe. wis and atmosphere .... i mean look at the spaceship part of eve.... its awesome ... the universe is displayed in a great way.... wo plays eve in the beginning and doesnt think: wow a huge universe it must be full of things to do..... but then after a while u find out eve is purely about spaceships... which is cool but.... it could be so much more.... eve could be a 1000000 times more awesome sandbox than it already is....

and seriously? pve doesnt hurt anybody its already present in eve why not make it just a bit cooler?

.... i also couldnt care less about skill revamps they have chosen to spend till summer on now.

dude u are really generalizing saying pple will join game just for single player and stay there only for it that is complete bs and i also never said that that is what i wanted.

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#51 - 2013-02-09 13:02:15 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Crumplecorn wrote:
What an awful, awful thread.

Single player content? EVE sells itself on being a sandbox, putting development time into single player content would not achieve anything for people who currently like the core game, and would only serve to attract people who will simply leave when they complete that content and realise they don't like the actual game hidden behind it, and that's assuming CCP could even do decent single player content, PvE has historically not been one of EVE's strong points.

Which brings me on to Incarna/WiS. IIRC, the only time in EVE history an expansion has caused a noticable drop in the number of subscriptions? Enough said.

As for CCP treating EVE like a finished product, it's quite the opposite. Constant fixing of existing issues is something you do for unfinished products, and that's the misstep (or one of them) that CCP made with Incarna. Big bold expansions into new territory are for products which truly are finished and which you can leave behind. EVE's playerbase (i.e. the ones who continue to hang around and support the game long term) have always been asking for improvements to the core game, and with the abject failure of Incarna, CCP got the impetus they needed to respond to that.


tl;dr: CCP are working on making EVE the best EVE it can be rather than trying to make it into something new, the former being a strategy which is sound in principle and is working out just fine in practice right now, the latter being a strategy which has been tried and failed. Your post is bad and you should feel bad.


yeah this is a terrible thread

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#52 - 2013-02-09 22:19:06 UTC  |  Edited by: SoOza N'GasZ
Mallak Azaria wrote:


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.


yes i am against ccp being greedy because we are the people that already give them most of the money they have.
i dont want content to be added to attract more people i named more suscribers as a possible bonus for ccp. i want ccp to treat eve more like a work of art like they are doing with the new vampire game which is comming up and i want there to be more stuff to do because i want to play eve like it was a real space IP, a virtual realm, or that it represent its lore more by showing it rather than making people read about it. and i want more stuff to do.....
and i want more stuff to do.....

and dont forget.....

i want more cool stuff to do.

i want this because i have invested money and time of my life in eve end i dont want it to die away some day as i fear it will like most mmos do...... thats why i think rather than make new games ccp could keep upgrading and expanding eve... and adding detail and interactive elements. they could make it something incredible with the foundation present. ( not saying it isnt already incredible)

Legba
Clyde Barrows
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2013-02-09 23:18:12 UTC
With all these new added ships and crimewatch , new ship balance yada yada yada . All we need now is cartoony graphics to complete the game . POS has a new meaning when discussing Eve. Too many new off the wall designers at the table, and too many 10 yr. olds ideas .
Tesal
#54 - 2013-02-10 00:00:54 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.


yes i am against ccp being greedy because we are the people that already give them most of the money they have.
i dont want content to be added to attract more people i named more suscribers as a possible bonus for ccp. i want ccp to treat eve more like a work of art like they are doing with the new vampire game which is comming up and i want there to be more stuff to do because i want to play eve like it was a real space IP, a virtual realm, or that it represent its lore more by showing it rather than making people read about it. and i want more stuff to do.....
and i want more stuff to do.....

and dont forget.....

i want more cool stuff to do.

i want this because i have invested money and time of my life in eve end i dont want it to die away some day as i fear it will like most mmos do...... thats why i think rather than make new games ccp could keep upgrading and expanding eve... and adding detail and interactive elements. they could make it something incredible with the foundation present. ( not saying it isnt already incredible)


I see you are going for quantity of posts, not quality. I couldn't bring myself to read half of it its so bad.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2013-02-10 00:11:58 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.


yes i am against ccp being greedy because we are the people that already give them most of the money they have.
i dont want content to be added to attract more people i named more suscribers as a possible bonus for ccp. i want ccp to treat eve more like a work of art like they are doing with the new vampire game which is comming up and i want there to be more stuff to do because i want to play eve like it was a real space IP, a virtual realm, or that it represent its lore more by showing it rather than making people read about it. and i want more stuff to do.....
and i want more stuff to do.....

and dont forget.....

i want more cool stuff to do.

i want this because i have invested money and time of my life in eve end i dont want it to die away some day as i fear it will like most mmos do...... thats why i think rather than make new games ccp could keep upgrading and expanding eve... and adding detail and interactive elements. they could make it something incredible with the foundation present. ( not saying it isnt already incredible)


That's the thing though, your suggestions (which are bad) would bring in an influx of new players, players that would only hang around for as long as it took to chew through that content. EVE is a sandbox. If you want more stuff to do, use some initiative & make your own content like everyone else.

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Ai Shun
#56 - 2013-02-10 01:10:04 UTC
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
ChromeStriker wrote:
... Eve is one of very few mmo's still growing, and making money... and certainly the oldest...

It has also just brought out DUST 514, and there was a recent dev blog about how eve is going to expand and grow....

Whats was your problem?

Also Eve =/= facebook....

Please make missions and single player content more immersive with extensive storylines, possibly cutscenes and more atmosphere.

Planetside Pve and pure discovery exploration. (like jedi knight game.) in order to find very rare objects.

random encounters with super rare races and super rare item drops.

bring in a lot more pve elements and story to keep starters going.

beef up nullsec possibilities. all u can do in null and wh space is pvp, rat, mine , pi. there must be some more intriguing things to do when corp mates are not online.

^ things one can do on his or her own where one meets characters and experiences the eve universe in a face to face pve way.


I think we need WIS, it was an attraction point for many players and can be incorporated without disturbing the core game at all, yet bring players attracted to it and the many new feature possibilities it carries further into the eve universe.

WIS can bring a personal identification factor to eve which may boost duelling and pvp content to a huge extent. It also creates a community factor and opens doors to new industry options such as possibly the supply of alcohol and nutrition or other decorative accessories, 3rd person handgun holster draw duelling or even betting on 3rd person avatar pvp arenas.

the options to decorate your own cabin are long awaited and WIS in poses i think should be executed fairly easily creating internal corp social atmospheres and taking them to new extents.

POS functionality and accessibility is horrific. The access options are very complicated and unbalanced restricting certain people from having access to certain elements just to limit their access to tower controls. this is ridiculous.

EVE is a MMORG, It needs far more social and personification features in order to create an extended sense of individuality and so with individual presence within a virtual world full stop.

If you fear WIS will keep people out of space make space better. and stop messing around with more or less meaningless content expansions.


as i said in my last post

eve needs aliens people... for real... its a freakin' universal space game for crying out loud

I really think CCP is treating eve like a finished product adding to the already present luxury.... but I am quite sure this is what is hindering EVE from becoming a total sensation. If they treated it like a brand new MMORPG they could boost its numbers to great extents. They could do this by simply adding atmosphere and more humane interaction and occupation for solo players, more occurrence, more discovery one can simply come across generated by chance.

There should be individual meteorites in space that need to be scanned down containing colonies that start missions, that can be plundered and looted, be mined, or even occupied to establish player bases, thus taking away from the super simplified structure of Asteroid belts, planets and stations.
This would bring new dimensions to eve, new levels of exploration and again personification and sense of individuality. It would make the universe more believable and also far more interesting because it would create a sense of interaction between players and the universe its self. It would also give a far more advanced sense of inhabitation and present life.

Also to announce a feature like WIS in a product people pay for and dedicate a large portion of their lives to and not release it i consider to be an insult to the eve community. It takes away greatly from CCPs professional image and capability.

eve needs a lot of personality added that suits the current universe without it becoming a colorful toon kids game like WOW or KOTOR online If it is ever to advance beyond its current state of popularity or to hinder great loss of interest over time.

CCP please step on the gas, find people who can really make magic happen and let them make eve an almost real place, without making all the extra interaction a necessity. Please give people some real IP, a real world to discover, a real sandbox to live in, not just a space to shoot each other in and to supply market demand for shooting each other.


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In their last updates CCP constantly stressed they where listening to subscribers but truly I see a probable 60% of pple wanting content and nothing has happened.... for this game to have existed for a decade i consider it to be a joke.



You want a different game that isn't EVE Online? Why are you asking for this on the EVE Online forums? Shouldn't you be approaching kick-starter / a publisher / developer with your concept?
Rian Kurr
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-02-10 04:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Rian Kurr
A lot of valid/good points by the OP.
Followed by the usual Eve not broke cuz we rulz crowd.
Eve is what you make it, but the single player aspect has been part of the game since day one.
The game ain't broke/we make our own fun/content crowd ..... what more do you need then? You make your own fun/content....development done...You have built your perfect world in your end of the sand box and are happy with it.
CCP should be free to put all of its development money into other aspect of the game, like the single player aspect.
Over time, the single player will want to play in your end of the sand box because its where all the fun is going on...
However it is a sandbox, that each and every player pays for and they should be able to play their own game in the sand if they want..
Ai Shun
#58 - 2013-02-10 04:49:28 UTC
Rian Kurr wrote:
A lot of valid/good points by the OP.
Followed by the usual Eve not broke cuz we rulz crowd.
Eve is what you make it, but single player PVE is part of the game and attracts people.
The game an't broke/make your own fun crowd ..fine..no more development needed game is perfect...
You have spoken.....
CCP you are now free to put all your development money into PVE single player aspect of the game....


There is a vast difference between development that adheres to the ethos of EVE Online and random development because "sum othr gaem doez it" like you say.
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#59 - 2013-02-10 05:37:26 UTC
Tesal wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.


yes i am against ccp being greedy because we are the people that already give them most of the money they have.
i dont want content to be added to attract more people i named more suscribers as a possible bonus for ccp. i want ccp to treat eve more like a work of art like they are doing with the new vampire game which is comming up and i want there to be more stuff to do because i want to play eve like it was a real space IP, a virtual realm, or that it represent its lore more by showing it rather than making people read about it. and i want more stuff to do.....
and i want more stuff to do.....

and dont forget.....

i want more cool stuff to do.

i want this because i have invested money and time of my life in eve end i dont want it to die away some day as i fear it will like most mmos do...... thats why i think rather than make new games ccp could keep upgrading and expanding eve... and adding detail and interactive elements. they could make it something incredible with the foundation present. ( not saying it isnt already incredible)


I see you are going for quantity of posts, not quality. I couldn't bring myself to read half of it its so bad.


how can my opinion be bad? and seriously dude i dont care if u cant read what i write.

Legba
SoOza N'GasZ
L F C
Ethereal Dawn
#60 - 2013-02-10 05:38:28 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
SoOza N'GasZ wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:


So you're against CCP being greedy, but you want them to add in single player content to bring in an influx of players that will only hang around for as long as that content is interesting? All the while, taking away manpower & resources from the multiplayer aspect of EVE, which is what the game is all about. Tell me how that would not be an act of greed.


yes i am against ccp being greedy because we are the people that already give them most of the money they have.
i dont want content to be added to attract more people i named more suscribers as a possible bonus for ccp. i want ccp to treat eve more like a work of art like they are doing with the new vampire game which is comming up and i want there to be more stuff to do because i want to play eve like it was a real space IP, a virtual realm, or that it represent its lore more by showing it rather than making people read about it. and i want more stuff to do.....
and i want more stuff to do.....

and dont forget.....

i want more cool stuff to do.

i want this because i have invested money and time of my life in eve end i dont want it to die away some day as i fear it will like most mmos do...... thats why i think rather than make new games ccp could keep upgrading and expanding eve... and adding detail and interactive elements. they could make it something incredible with the foundation present. ( not saying it isnt already incredible)


That's the thing though, your suggestions (which are bad) would bring in an influx of new players, players that would only hang around for as long as it took to chew through that content. EVE is a sandbox. If you want more stuff to do, use some initiative & make your own content like everyone else.


why i would love to :) as soon as you tell me how i can make new content Blink

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