Player Features and Ideas Discussion

NPC corp members are only immune to consequence-free PvP.

If they tick you off that much, just fly into a mass of them with a disco-ball battleship and harvest the tears that will then flow freely down upon you.

Make it by a mix of sp/time for this to take effect, 60 days and/or 6 mill sp sounds reasonable to me

I put it down to a lack of creativity personally.

So where is the DEV comment to backup that quote in the OP? Having a random user spout something doesn't make it true. Until there is something to back up that sentiment, essentially this entire thread is based off a false assumption.

I've played games where the starter quest agents would not talk to you once you got past level one, almost like the devs planned it that way. I see nothing like that here.

This fascination with NPC corps is due to their protecting new players from the cowards who want to grief them while they're still not up to speed with the mechanics of this game. It must rankle; wanting to pick on newbs but knowing concord will be on your tail faster than you can scream "mummy, I've wet myself again".

So then, they are randomly assigned a FW group. Congratulations, you've locked them out of a large amount of High Sec space without their consent. Congratulations you've further unbalanced the membership that each militia has. Congratulations, people in FW who avoid PvP as much as possible.

Honestly, this thread should be war deccable.

However, there is a good point made by



Having thought about this I'm putting this RFC to the readers.

Wardeccable NPC corps.

Digest the follwing before posting plz.

In order that new players can get up to speed on the game's mechanics without being the current cannon-fodder for the vermin, the starter corp with remain inviolate. In fact: suiganking someone in the corp will be considered an exploit. Keep reading

Plenty of those "in the know" have said that with six month's training a pilot can take down any other pilot in a like-for-like ship. Therefore no player at six or more months remains in the noob corp. His toon will be moved automatically to the NPC corp he will arrive in if he joins a player corp and then leaves. If he attacks another player in violation of Concord's rules - brings them down on him - he will be considered to know what he's about and be moved immediately to the NPC corp. In the event someone manages to con the newb into do it, a petition can sort out that. No need for the software to cater for it.

Those NPC corps ARE wardeccable. Not ALL NPC corps, just those ones. If you're in a corp that has wardecced it, the station guns WILL fire upon you and you won't be able to dock. However, you will be able to attack with impunity anyone in that NPC corp. This will have many ramifications, some considerable.

1. Pirate corps will no longer be able to have an out of corp hauler safe from those who seek vengeance. The only way to have one available is to repeatedly train one up every six months, or pray no one wardecs the corp in which he's hiding.
2. Any griefer getting jollies off your mining ships can now be wardecced and taught a lesson.
3. People in that NPC corp can fight each other with impunity; they are, after all, in the same corp. Those who like the quiet life in their npc corp will soon slap down the griefer for causing THEM grief. Point to discuss: nulsec players wanting a laugh by leaving their corp, to end up in the NPC corp for free hits at the other players in the corp. However, they will not encounter anyone under six months old. There could be a flood of them arriving, but prolly not. Better things to do?
4. No mining bots hiding forever behind immunity.
5. New players are still 'safe' within the noob corp while learning the ropes, at least for up to six months.

Possible problems include permanent wardeccing of these NPC corps. However, that would be an incentive for those in them to join player corporations. Maybe not so much of a problem?

Maybe: on an account where at least one toon is six-plus months old all toons start in the wardeccable NPC corp? The player is, after all, experienced; or ought to be!

This could probably be fleshed out, but I believe the basic idea is sound.

Comments?

There is no value in this idea.

I am sorry if you feel this is needed, but you are taking a game, famous for the sandbox where all things can be done...

...And telling a group of people, "Well, except for the things you are doing here, those will be forced onto you differently"

Do you honestly believe you can harvest PvE tears by this obvious force feed into FW?
All this will accomplish is diluting the FW corps with players who are not interested, and will seek means to bypass this.

And, that is assuming they stay in the game playing, after being railroaded into this.

Keep this in mind, you need to demonstrate harm in order to limit options for other players. There is no specific process, but rather you need to do this in order to justify your changes as being more than self serving efforts.

Players can skip FW by joining or founding a player-run corporation.

There will be an end to avoiding consequences, though, as the (imperfect due to ganks) NPC-corporation immunity will end after that grace period — without introducing any new complicated game mechanics.

Good idea, but needs a little fix: after N days, you are drafted into one of the 4 biggest sov holding alliances.