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Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#1 - 2011-10-24 01:46:00 UTC
How in god's name do you find solo 1v1 fights(i usually fly a Vengeance or Slicer). Ill go to Amamake and its full of BC gangs and drams...then every other system around it is deserted. Other LS is deserted too. I got lucky and got a 1v1 verse a hawk once but it took a couple hours.

Is there something i am missing?
Any tips on how to get fights?
Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2011-10-24 02:52:15 UTC
Good day:

See http://brutorbullfighter.blogspot.com/2011/01/solo-combat-pilots-guide-to-good.html and the related guides for learning places to hunt.

I've found solo in eve to be like hunting... you need a lot of patience, you need to properly select the targets... and you have to realize sometimes the buck gets you, and sometimes you get the buck.

Suleiman Shouaa was out in Amamake the other day getting kill after kill in his Vengeance; but he knows what to look for in terms of targets. Personally, I avoid Amamake, because I'm still learning to tell what's bait. And even in Suleiman Shouaa's case, there were a number of times the target called backup, and Suleiman Shouaa was either able to take out the backup or get out.

How is http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14474222 for a solo T3 kill in a frigate hull?

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
#3 - 2011-10-24 04:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zoe Alarhun
I roam from Aurohunen up to Oldman star and beyond - In that pipe I can normally find a fight somewhere. Some days I'll find nothing, most of the time I'll find 3-4 Fight a evening. I fly almost exclusively frigates.
Bengal Bob
Slymsloot Enterprises
#4 - 2011-10-24 09:12:45 UTC
o/ Mara how is Tuskers going?

You just need to roam, I got around 10 solo kills yesterday. FW is your friend whan it comes to pilots active in low sec.

Metro is probably better for solo work. Try to find the Black Rebel Rifter guys, although they often fly in packs they die easily :)

Use your imagination Unimaginative Guy
Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-10-24 13:26:06 UTC
Good day, Bengal Bob:

Going well and you?

For the past few evenings I've been using your one Rifter fit with success in solo pvp.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14486617 -- extremely close fight.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14487107 - another extremely close one.

Though I've not yet found a cruiser to try it on.

There are 10 to 14 jumps around Hevrice that are very good roaming areas.

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-10-24 14:15:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Karl Planck
Bengal Bob wrote:
o/ Mara how is Tuskers going?

You just need to roam, I got around 10 solo kills yesterday. FW is your friend whan it comes to pilots active in low sec.

Metro is probably better for solo work. Try to find the Black Rebel Rifter guys, although they often fly in packs they die easily :)

Use your imagination Unimaginative Guy


See bob, what did i tell ya. FW may need some help, but it is doing just fine. glad to hear you got some good hunting. I myself got quite a few kills on friday, including 3v1 on my slicer (killed em all xD)

*Edit: I guess i should contribute. So, the deal with solo is a bit of a mix and personal style. IMO there are three kind of targets for a solo pvp'er at least in low sec.

1) unexpecting noob. They haven't been to lowsec, they don't use local or the d-scan. easy to find or trick.

2) other pvp'ers that you trick in some way. Using bait, non-traditionally fit ships paying someone else for help, lots of ways, probably the least common for solo pvp.

3) Both sides are looking for a fight. This comes in a lot of flavors. Asking for 1v1's goes a long way, especially if people in the area are familiar with you. A lot of times if you are hunting someone iwth a decent pvp record in a system, they probably are hunting you too. If you get a fight, even if its not explicitly set up, in all odds both of you wanted a fight. Take note of that when your cruising around.

Other than that, using guides to find targets is moderately stupid imo. People who post guides about areas to hunt are going to probably gank you if YOU try to hunt there. Mara's tusker area for example. While it is good for them, without backup your probably going to run into a case of (3) except they will have friends if they expect a chance of losing.

Honestly, if you are havign trouble finding a fight, get in a t1 frig and stay away from everything but noobies and otehr t1 frigs. Its safer, your fast, and usually people will ship down to fight you if you set up a 1v1 in a safe.

GL out there

I has all the eve inactivity

Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-10-24 17:45:49 UTC
Good day, Karl:

A number of us fly solo in our neck of the woods who don't try to whore on kills.

While it is possible a fellow solo pilot may encounter several of any corp / alliance in any area, there are actually those pilots who don't call for backup when they fly solo.

Then again, this is Eve, and even if they see you in local asking for a 1v1, they are best served believing it may not be the case.

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Unimaginative Guy
Dutch Squad
#8 - 2011-10-24 18:38:23 UTC
Karl Planck wrote:
Bengal Bob wrote:
o/ Mara how is Tuskers going?

You just need to roam, I got around 10 solo kills yesterday. FW is your friend whan it comes to pilots active in low sec.

Metro is probably better for solo work. Try to find the Black Rebel Rifter guys, although they often fly in packs they die easily :)

Use your imagination Unimaginative Guy


See bob, what did i tell ya. FW may need some help, but it is doing just fine. glad to hear you got some good hunting. I myself got quite a few kills on friday, including 3v1 on my slicer (killed em all xD)

*Edit: I guess i should contribute. So, the deal with solo is a bit of a mix and personal style. IMO there are three kind of targets for a solo pvp'er at least in low sec.

1) unexpecting noob. They haven't been to lowsec, they don't use local or the d-scan. easy to find or trick.

2) other pvp'ers that you trick in some way. Using bait, non-traditionally fit ships paying someone else for help, lots of ways, probably the least common for solo pvp.

3) Both sides are looking for a fight. This comes in a lot of flavors. Asking for 1v1's goes a long way, especially if people in the area are familiar with you. A lot of times if you are hunting someone iwth a decent pvp record in a system, they probably are hunting you too. If you get a fight, even if its not explicitly set up, in all odds both of you wanted a fight. Take note of that when your cruising around.

Other than that, using guides to find targets is moderately stupid imo. People who post guides about areas to hunt are going to probably gank you if YOU try to hunt there. Mara's tusker area for example. While it is good for them, without backup your probably going to run into a case of (3) except they will have friends if they expect a chance of losing.

Honestly, if you are havign trouble finding a fight, get in a t1 frig and stay away from everything but noobies and otehr t1 frigs. Its safer, your fast, and usually people will ship down to fight you if you set up a 1v1 in a safe.

GL out there


This is generally what i do...except ive yet to see a t1 frig in a week. All i see are dramiels, really expensive stuff, faction cruisers, or BCs. Never any t1 cruisers or T1 frigs. I occasionally see an AF, but rarely.

Any Thanks for the link you posted Mara, it helped a bit =)
Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2011-10-24 19:19:59 UTC
Good day:

Just to confirm you have good eye sight, what you see on the field varies.

When I'm in any FW space, I tend to see more faction and t2 compared to other areas.

Still, last night a number of t1 frigate pilots where out in our neck of the woods flying Rifters, Incursus, Punishers, along with some t1 destroyers.

It does vary though; I passed two separate pilots each flying comets during the same couple hour roam.

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Dynast
Room for Improvement
Good Sax
#10 - 2011-10-24 19:40:00 UTC
The introduction of faction frigs that completely outclass all T2 frigs really ****** up soloing in the last year and a half.. I ended up on break from eve for close to a year after my old playstyle of roaming a crusader, taranis, and the like, evaporated. Having come back, I've reluctantly bought into Dramiels Online and got me some faction frigs, but I still try to make destroyers and AFs work.. and mostly fail. There are fittings that will win fights, but can't dictate range.. and the ones that can dictate range get stomped. You can try baiting with active reps, but that depends on your opponent being drunk or stupid and taking the bait.

Which is not to say that you can't get some good 1v1 fights if you spend a few hours roaming, but when people say it's nothing like it used to be, they are right. You can roll pimped-faction and fight other faction ships and try to cheese everyone else (who will try not to engage you at all costs), or be everyone else and try to find fights while avoiding the ubiquitous faction faggotry. Probably the best middle ground are AFs that can fight factiontrash but not kill it, and get GoodFights with everyone else.. stuff like the Vengeance and Hawk.
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-10-24 22:31:46 UTC
Unimaginative Guy wrote:
How in god's name do you find solo 1v1 fights(i usually fly a Vengeance or Slicer). Ill go to Amamake and its full of BC gangs and drams...then every other system around it is deserted. Other LS is deserted too. I got lucky and got a 1v1 verse a hawk once but it took a couple hours.

Is there something i am missing?
Any tips on how to get fights?



Come to Amamake and ask for 1v1's man. Heretic Army pilots love 1v1's.

Also, you should come to Amamake on the next Frigfry Friday, there are tons of kills and 1v1's to be had.

Convo me in game for more info

I'm back!

ExiledMoon
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2011-10-25 15:40:32 UTC
Solo Fights?

Join Red vs Blue.

L1m9n1663r
Doomheim
#13 - 2011-10-25 16:03:41 UTC
Move to Delve.
There are a lot of stations out there that lets any pilots not in active war with TEST dock up.
Neaon Sadari
No Moral Constraints
#14 - 2011-10-25 16:28:38 UTC
You dont need to fly faction ships to fly solo.
Sure you see many doing it but think of the downside.
How many fights do those guys really get? I mean as long as you are an experienced player you can 90% of the time (in a frig sized hull) dictate how/who/when you fight.

I've had plenty of idiots in drams/cynabals come chasing my AFs/Intys and I simply ignore them and warp off.
Even if my AF could beat them in a fight I know that they will probably out speed it and get away anyway.
You also come to learn that many of these people flying such expensive ships are not always alone and will just be flying expensive bait tackle for their gang.

I also fly in the Auro- caldari fw- Oulletta pipe and there are many fights to be had there no doubt but large parts of it are infested with T3 gangs and ofc the FW fleets.
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-10-25 16:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: SeaSaw
Good Sirs;

I get so bored of looking for fights I just rat in Otou (belt 6) in my rifter hoping someone will come along.

Can someone list better places (near Hek) where I am more likely to get a fight, uneven fights are fine and i don't mind losing my pod etc. I don't mind waiting for a while if the ratting is good.

Ratting may be dull, but it is better than scanning, scanning, scanning and moving on all night for nothing.

Also, should I rat in a ship with a bigger signature? I am wondering if they are scanning for me and just missing my rifter. I could put alot of t1 shields extenders on my rupture and try that I guess.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-10-25 16:30:46 UTC
Jude Lloyd wrote:
Unimaginative Guy wrote:
How in god's name do you find solo 1v1 fights(i usually fly a Vengeance or Slicer). Ill go to Amamake and its full of BC gangs and drams...then every other system around it is deserted. Other LS is deserted too. I got lucky and got a 1v1 verse a hawk once but it took a couple hours.

Is there something i am missing?
Any tips on how to get fights?



Come to Amamake and ask for 1v1's man. Heretic Army pilots love 1v1's.

Also, you should come to Amamake on the next Frigfry Friday, there are tons of kills and 1v1's to be had.

Convo me in game for more info


Frig fridays are still on? I abandoned going over to amamake pretty much after PL moved in. I have no desire to die of laughter when my slicer gets cyno dropped.

I has all the eve inactivity

Karl Planck
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2011-10-25 16:35:11 UTC
SeaSaw wrote:
Good Sirs;

I get so bored of looking for fights I just rat in Otou (belt 6) in my rifter hoping someone will come along.

Can someone list better places (near Hek) where I am more likely to get a fight, uneven fights are fine and i don't mind losing my pod etc. I don't mind waiting for a while if the ratting is good.

Ratting may be dull, but it is better than scanning, scanning, scanning and moving on all night for nothing.

your humble servent
SeaSaw



Honestly man, this is something you have to scout yourself due to the large number of variables you aren't seeing. Lots of things play into this, including, but not limited to, how much resources you have in the area, who lives there, who you know, what ppl are flying atm and last but not least movements from ambitious industrialists.

If you are dying to a fight, go to amamake. Sit in a belt and you will find it in probably 30 seconds. And no, it will no be a fair fight, ask for one and you probably will only wait for a few minutes.

I has all the eve inactivity

Mara Abraham
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-10-26 03:34:43 UTC
Good day, Neaon Sadari:

Correct on not needing faction ships to fly solo.

A lot in our corp, including myself, fly t1, non faction, frigates on a regular basis.

Thank you.

--- Mara Abraham

  • http://www.factionalwarfare.info/
  • http://evepiratelife.com/
Bengal Bob
Slymsloot Enterprises
#19 - 2011-10-26 10:13:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Bengal Bob
You can kill most AF/Inties/Dessies/EAF and a few cruisers in T1 frigs

Learn the common fittings for those ships and work out counter fits.
Check the KB of your opponent.
Lots of 0.0 fleet kills and they probably can't pvp very well, but will be overconfident.
Lots of high secs kills, probably station gamer, so engage in a belt.
PVP noob and they could have anything fit.

The biggest advantage you have in a T1 frig is that people want to engage you. They will chase you, so you get to choose where the engagement starts - they will usually be overconfident and sloppy as well which is useful.

The biggest disadvantage you have is that killing bigger things like cruisers takes time, and you should always assume backup is on the other side of the nearest gate. Oh, and you die lots. But when you get it right, it is worthwhile.

Things to avoid:

Arbitrator, Caracal, Rupture, Worm, Succubus, Dram, Comet, Ishkur etc. All the webbing, kiting, drone spewing, missile boats really.

Work out the fits you want for the typical ships you see and then get reships in place where you are hunting. Reship as soon as you see a target you think you can take, and then look innocent.

Oh, and stay out of FW plexes until you are more experienced as you are likely to die quickly.

Don't underestimate the usefulness of asking for a 1v1. Be in the same fleet to avoid them having a booster alt. Avoid Karl :)
cyka776
#20 - 2011-10-26 10:29:34 UTC
the weaker you seem the more likely people are to take the chance and engage solo or with limited support