EVE General Discussion

Gaining skill for killing carebears.

I'd love to see that !

if you didn't scam some idiot out of all of his belongings within a week of starting eve i don't want to speak to you

"hi guys i'm new to this game and i just podjumped to deklein, what should I do? what do you mean this game is full of people ready to give me all of their isk hand over fist?"

u gotta finish this, i need to know what the axemace is called, and it drops in the forest??

is that in the Sortet system, or near OMS?



that would be awesome!

Considering the vast majority of MMO's are some kind of hybrid between sandbox and themepark, yes. Usually what determines whether an MMO is called a sandbox or themepark is the main focus, but even an MMO like WoW has Sandbox elements, just like EVE has themepark elements.

The closest thing EvE has to a themepark is in Highsec. They're mostly perfectly happy there on the rides, having fun and doing their thing. Its all the people outside, looking in, that seem to have the problem. I dunno if its just that they expect everyone to play the game and enjoy it for all the non-themepark related activities, or if they just want those guys to form a nice and orderly line into awaiting gate-camps. Perhaps they can't handle real PvP? Regardless, these often so-called PvPers just HATE the idea of this. An whole area filled with players that enjoy the game for completely different reasons to themselves? Why, they must just be playing the game wrong!

EvE is a sandbox for exactly the reason that it allows a multitude of different play styles. EvE is a great game, for this very reason. As much as you scream "PvP-only-game!" while suicide ganking defenceless carebears, if doesn't and probably never will change them into like-minded players. If anything, i'd argue you are the very problem itself, dissuading and preventing their natural progressiong out of highsec.

And everyone knows that the main reason highsec players are so preyed upon is because they don't shoot back. Much better than low and null, right? The areas where PvP is supposed to happen.......

You take away the things that make the people happy to subscribe and play, and you'll just make them leave. I'm sure alot of you might consider this a good thing, but you're wrong.

Alright; so you can summarise what I said in a shorter, easier to digest chunk. Thank you. Oh wait. You're in Goonwaffe. Am I allowed to thank you then? ;)

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Ehhh, a theme park style in EVE? How the heck would that even work?

The major issue is that every theme park to date has essentially made the player some sort of god walking among mere mortals. Y'know, the whole save the world thing. Problem is...that's not even close to the intended mentality of the game. Not only that, but I feel a theme park would be as jarringly out of place as I find it in, well, GW2.

If you haven't played GW2's personal story yet, here's my synopsis. You're kind of a big deal during any given story arc, the arc ends and you're a hero. Then you move on to the next story arc, where suddenly everyone spontaneously forgets the previous arc even existed. Oh, and then Traherne hijacks your story.

I believe the reason why that framework exists is that the theme park requires the game to empower the player, yet the intent of an open world means that the player also cannot be someone of consequence. The very idea of an NPC hijacking your story is actually rather vital to keeping that concept intact, because doing otherwise means either every player who ever played the game is suddenly a demigod that every faction reveres, or else you get the slightly awkward GW1 situation where you go down as "That Nameless Hero"...which doesn't work so well when you're supposed to show up again the next day instead of a 250 year timeskip.

To be blunt, I don't even think the theme park has any place in any open or sandbox world, period. The very idea that there's a structured, definite line of progression in a system that's inherently designed for there to NOT be a structured, definite line of progression only serves to muddle the true purpose of the game...but now I'm getting close to derailing the thread, so I'll stop here.

I'm sorry but you aren't tall enough to be on those rides.