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[LOAN] 4b, 8% - trading business
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Dvesk Papuga
WRECKLAND INDUSTRIAL
New Eden Wanderers.
#1 - 2013-02-05 22:40:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Dvesk Papuga
Trading Bond

Required ISK: 4 billion
Interest: 8%
Collateral: none
Payback expected in : within 1 month

ISK will be used to expand my trading business to regional trading. Business idea is to buy items from A and ship it to B,C and sell for profit. B and C destinations has been already scouted, market researched, list of items tradable made.
It is my second loan request, first one was filled my Blueprint seller ( 2b, 8%, everything was payed back within 1 month).
Wy do I need a loan? After my second loan, i managed to earn some ISK to maintain a minimum trading with one of my trading alts. By that time I have trained my second trading alt, which again needs 2bil to trade effectively. Those 4 bil will be distributed among those 2 alts in order to achieve full potential.

My experience
Been doing trading from around 2010-10 with some breaks.
Intensively came back to trading from 2010-11 to 2012-12 and from 2013-01-04
Starting capital: 5.2bil
In period from 01-05 to 01-15
Income: 11.6bil Outcome:15bil (According to EVEMENT)

Current crew:
Local Regional trader ( main trader, who can fly a hauler, have a moderate amount of trade orders)
Regional trader #1 (ready to go)
Regional trader #2 (ready to go)


I will provide full API of my account if asked.
Please contact me personally for any additional information or ask your questions here.

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Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#2 - 2013-02-05 22:49:01 UTC
would like pledge 20b

@JerryTPepridge
Dvesk Papuga
WRECKLAND INDUSTRIAL
New Eden Wanderers.
#3 - 2013-02-05 23:08:09 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
would like pledge 20b


What do you want to say by this post?
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#4 - 2013-02-06 00:08:14 UTC
Dvesk Papuga wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
would like pledge 20b


What do you want to say by this post?



If you offer no collateral. You are for all intents and purposes a scammer.

yes
Dvesk Papuga
WRECKLAND INDUSTRIAL
New Eden Wanderers.
#5 - 2013-02-06 00:17:48 UTC
Previous loan request : here
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#6 - 2013-02-06 00:30:10 UTC
Dvesk Papuga wrote:
Previous loan request : here


Changes nothing.

Un-Collateralize loans. Are impossible to differentiate between scams. Therefor it is in the best interest of everyone not to participate

yes
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#7 - 2013-02-06 09:19:29 UTC
I LIKE IT!
Diesel Phumes
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-02-06 15:09:03 UTC
Alex Grison wrote:
Dvesk Papuga wrote:
Previous loan request : here


Changes nothing.

Un-Collateralize loans. Are impossible to differentiate between scams. Therefor it is in the best interest of everyone not to participate



While I very much appreciate this perspective, I'd like to see if I could offer any type of counter-argument.

Some loans offer higher returns (interest) than other loans. The rate of this return can be assigned a value, let's call it a Beta value. This/these beta values have a direct correlation to risk. So, higher beta values (returns) = riskier bonds/stocks/whatever.

Some investors have lower or higher levels to risk aversion than other investors. Typically, in a real world model, this level of risk aversion has a direct correlation with the amount of time you forsee yourself participaing in market acivities, or amount of time before you need access to the cash involved in the investment. Other times, it's just a personality trait, etc.

Higher beta stocks offer higher rewards to account for many variables, one very significant variable being the chance of default. So, if a person could compile the right type of data, or gain the requisite experience, they could determine an interest rate which would be appropriate to take on some of the riskier loans (e.g. no collateral) and still make a return equal to or greater than the return promised on collateralized debt offerings found in this MD forum.

Differentiating between scams or not is irrelevant. You do enough research to assign correct values to the odds, split the percentages and profit.

Therefore, in conclusion I say it is best for everyone who doesn't have the risk tolerance, experience, or access to enough of the right information to not get involved.
Dvesk Papuga
WRECKLAND INDUSTRIAL
New Eden Wanderers.
#9 - 2013-02-06 22:15:06 UTC
bump
XrayZII
4S Corporation
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-02-07 10:01:19 UTC
do you even lift, bro?
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I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#11 - 2013-03-17 06:58:25 UTC
THIS DUDE DONT PAY HIS BILLS!