EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hello

I played Eve for a couple of months a while back, and I am thinking about re-activating my account.

I would like to get some good tips on how to have more fun in the game. I would like to try different aspects of the game, I would like to earn a decent amount of credits and do PVP too.

Last I played, I got myself a Drake and then a Raven - I had the bare minimum skill requirements, but I was grinding lvl. 4 missions with a decent income. It got really boring after a while, and I gave up the game. Before that my goal was to get the skills for a Tengu(?) or that cloaking Caldari scorpion-looking BS that can tunnel other ships through a wormhole and whatnot.

So any suggestions on what to do to have more fun as a low level player with few credits? Is there a way to PVP a lot and generate an income from it for a poor noob like me? If so, what ships/skills should I aim at as a Caldari character?

My advice would be to focus less on what ships to train for and more on finding a group of cool people to play the game with. Find a good corp that does PVP.

Ships, you can train for as an afterthought. CCP has revamped the T1 lines (frig to battlecruiser) to where they are useful; you don't need anything fancy. Caldari ships typically have a PVE focus, but you can try to use them or train another race for the specific tasks you encounter as you go.

If you want fun, though, it's in the people you're grouped with. You can't grind it, and it's not limited to a specific group of ships. The ships, and skill training, they're just tools.

EDIT: What to do diagram. But, again, it shouldn't be your focus. Find some good people to play with. You can start by joining one of the open recruiting groups, RvB, faction warfare, EVE Uni, etc., just to meet people and try some of the PVP activities in a group.

Faction Warfare you can either: join a militia NPC corp with your character, or join a player corp that is doing faction warfare as part of the FW NPC alliance. It's an unrestricted PVP brawl that gives pretty good LP rewards if you grind it, but for "fun" you're probably better off in a player FW corp, because they will have organized ops and roams. If you join the militia, you may have to organize your own operations.

For general PVP, the ships are designed to rock/paper/scissors as much as possible. Frigates can certainly evade damage via speed and small size, and can tackle or ewar other ships, which is why they are useful and desired in groups. There are many roles besides simple DPS. And even DPS, a cruiser or battlecruiser will do just fine for the small group PVP you'll probably be doing.

Last, the "fancy" ships, they're not that hard to get, really. Cov-ops for scouting and probing, recons, hacs, it's not really that bad. The hulls cost more, which is why we're recommending T1 ships (up to battlecruiser), but once you find a fun activity you can figure out what your income can support.

Thing is, people in shiny ships tend to make targets of themselves more often than not, and usually only fly those things when they know they have the advantage (not as often as you'd think) or legitimately have no care for the money they could (potentially) lose.

That said, plenty of people have LOADS of fun in T1 frigates, destroyers, and cruisers, especially since the tiericide began. While I can't speak to Faction Warfare, I know RvB tends to focus on those three ship types more than anything else (though, of course, you will see battlecruisers and battleships, along with T2 and faction variants of the T1 frigates/cruisers, as well). It is possible to make ISK in RvB, but FW makes it even easier. Depends on what it is you want to do.

And, for what it's worth, when I first tried out the game, I went mining -> missioning, and quickly lost interest, too. Now, in RvB, I'm actually having fun (when I undock). :)

Start by joining FW in the NPC FW corp, then join in with whatever militia stuff is going on until you click with a crew you work with a lot. The Militia channel is pretty active.

Well, just join FW.

FW has a shared channel in which basic ops are organized more or less independently of corps, and you can talk to people and invite them to group and such. Once you find a group that likes you that you enjoy running with, join them. There's no rush.

Or, rather, if there is a rush, try the corp recruitment forum instead.

Hello, I re-activated now

Yes, I plan on a Griffin ECM setup and finding some dudes to hang out with and shoot at stuff with.

I also thought about a Heron for soloing, a Caldari Navy Hookbill if I make a lot of LP through faction warfare, and eventually end up with a Hawk once my skills and wallet are ready. I'm a noob, so I'll just go with whatever people tell me works / is needed in their gang.

Hey again, I joined a corp with some great guys, and they helped me out a lot. I have been losing a lot of frigates, but so far I had fun in FW.

However with my poor skills, it seems like it is mostly about warping around to different plexes a whole lot, gank when possible or warp out when an even bigger gank arrives. It is a little bit tedious, and going at it solo seems to be pure suicide as everyone in FW (except me perhaps) are wise enough to travel and fight in groups only.

So I was thinking, what about bounty hunting in high sec space? Is that something I can reap an ok profit from, and are there normally viable targets I stand a chance against (I pilot either a t1 frig or cruiser)? I have 4 mil sp or so. I would think bounty hunting in high sec would be conducive to more 1 vs 1 fights, but I might be wrong?

I have heard of people using a Heron for solo PvP successfully. Not sure how, exactly, but some quite reputable people have told me that they have done it, and I believe them. It is a niche thing though, the idea being that you hang around looking like you are AFK or looking at your probes and you wait for somebody to take the bait, and then surprise them by being PvP fit and knowing what you are doing.

I would not say that the Heron is a typical or recommended fit for somebody just learning to PvP. I'd recommend the Merlin for the best starter solo PvP boat on the Caldari line. Fit it with scram, AB, blasters, etc. Get 50-100 of them set up ready to go and have at it. Once you start to get a feel for it, then take your Heron out and see what you can do with it.

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