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[Exploration] Improve the Gui: planets get on the way

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Thorian Crystal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-02-05 20:18:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorian Crystal
While I am scanning something, the planets get on the way every so often. When I am trying to move a probe, no, it pops up a list of planets or other entities. But when I am probing, of course I want to move the probes around, not check what planets etc there might be. Also I get the results of probing in a separate dialog...

One nice solution to this would be that set all planet icons etc to the background. I will move the probes away, if I want to see any planets by any chance. The probing UI should be primarily for probing, anyway. I have never needed to check any planets in the probing window.

The same primary / secondary goes to many other things too. For example on a wreck "open" command should be high in the menu instead of several others that I rarely use. Even locking to a wreck is now higher than open though there is not much reason to blow loot up.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-02-06 02:21:34 UTC
Thorian Crystal wrote:
While I am scanning something, the planets get on the way every so often. When I am trying to move a probe, no, it pops up a list of planets or other entities. But when I am probing, of course I want to move the probes around, not check what planets etc there might be. Also I get the results of probing in a separate dialog...

One nice solution to this would be that set all planet icons etc to the background. I will move the probes away, if I want to see any planets by any chance. The probing UI should be primarily for probing, anyway. I have never needed to check any planets in the probing window.

The same primary / secondary goes to many other things too. For example on a wreck "open" command should be high in the menu instead of several others that I rarely use. Even locking to a wreck is now higher than open though there is not much reason to blow loot up.

It's actually a harder problem than it looks: some of us use the pop-up planet listings :)
GM Arcade
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2013-02-06 08:45:03 UTC
Thorian Crystal wrote:
While I am scanning something, the planets get on the way every so often. When I am trying to move a probe, no, it pops up a list of planets or other entities. But when I am probing, of course I want to move the probes around, not check what planets etc there might be. Also I get the results of probing in a separate dialog...

One nice solution to this would be that set all planet icons etc to the background. I will move the probes away, if I want to see any planets by any chance. The probing UI should be primarily for probing, anyway. I have never needed to check any planets in the probing window.

The same primary / secondary goes to many other things too. For example on a wreck "open" command should be high in the menu instead of several others that I rarely use. Even locking to a wreck is now higher than open though there is not much reason to blow loot up.


With regards to the planet information popping up you can disable what information is shown by opening the map (f10), then selecting the 'Solar System Map' tab. In this tab you can enable/disable various map features such as planets and stations by clicking on the 'eye' icon.




Lead GM Arcade | Customer Support Manager
Bloodpetal
Tir Capital Management Group
#4 - 2013-02-06 14:25:07 UTC
GM Arcade wrote:

With regards to the planet information popping up you can disable what information is shown by opening the map (f10), then selecting the 'Solar System Map' tab. In this tab you can enable/disable various map features such as planets and stations by clicking on the 'eye' icon.


Thanks for reminding me about this. I turned off moons from showing (cuz they're not really needed) - but I really need the other objects to be visible while probing for various reasons and it's too much of a hassle to uncheck and recheck all regularly, also we need to know where the planets are for a lot of combat probing and scnaning. The issue is unfortunately going to take more finesse to resolve than just that feature.

Where I am.
Thorian Crystal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-02-06 19:53:15 UTC
Thanks for the information, but I think the map gets pretty empty if I remove everything.

How about disable the autopopup or at least an option to disable it? I move the probes with left click, so any info could open with right click (or if you have the setting for autopopup on then with the autopopup).

I don't like the autopopupping in the star map either. There is so much autopopping that I feel like being in a popcorn machine.
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#6 - 2013-02-06 23:43:49 UTC
Thorian Crystal wrote:
Thanks for the information, but I think the map gets pretty empty if I remove everything.

How about disable the autopopup or at least an option to disable it?


This would be very nice indeed.

It's useful to see the planets on the chart as references when scanning, but the popups are seriously annoying and always tends to get in the way when shuffling probes around.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
Ryans Revenge
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-02-08 06:13:39 UTC
Agreed. It's a major annoyance when probing. This needs moving to the improvements & suggestions forum though?
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#8 - 2013-02-09 20:53:04 UTC
GM Arcade wrote:
Thorian Crystal wrote:
While I am scanning something, the planets get on the way every so often. When I am trying to move a probe, no, it pops up a list of planets or other entities. But when I am probing, of course I want to move the probes around, not check what planets etc there might be. Also I get the results of probing in a separate dialog...

One nice solution to this would be that set all planet icons etc to the background. I will move the probes away, if I want to see any planets by any chance. The probing UI should be primarily for probing, anyway. I have never needed to check any planets in the probing window.

The same primary / secondary goes to many other things too. For example on a wreck "open" command should be high in the menu instead of several others that I rarely use. Even locking to a wreck is now higher than open though there is not much reason to blow loot up.


With regards to the planet information popping up you can disable what information is shown by opening the map (f10), then selecting the 'Solar System Map' tab. In this tab you can enable/disable various map features such as planets and stations by clicking on the 'eye' icon.







it's not only the planets that pop up , it's the labels from the sigs already probed out previously/visited - there is no way to turn these off and in a system that has 20-30 sigs mostly centered in the middle of the system which happens a lot it's a real pain.

interfers with me grabbing the arrows, even the core probes pop up to let me know they're on my map

I tried turning them off but you can't. CCP should allow us to turn them off like the "Hide All Bracket" function so we get a clearer view of what we're doing, so only sigs not probed to 100% may be shown. Basically, NO MORE LABELS.

Thank you.

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-02-10 03:44:29 UTC
VegasMirage wrote:
GM Arcade wrote:
Thorian Crystal wrote:
While I am scanning something, the planets get on the way every so often. When I am trying to move a probe, no, it pops up a list of planets or other entities. But when I am probing, of course I want to move the probes around, not check what planets etc there might be. Also I get the results of probing in a separate dialog...

One nice solution to this would be that set all planet icons etc to the background. I will move the probes away, if I want to see any planets by any chance. The probing UI should be primarily for probing, anyway. I have never needed to check any planets in the probing window.

The same primary / secondary goes to many other things too. For example on a wreck "open" command should be high in the menu instead of several others that I rarely use. Even locking to a wreck is now higher than open though there is not much reason to blow loot up.


With regards to the planet information popping up you can disable what information is shown by opening the map (f10), then selecting the 'Solar System Map' tab. In this tab you can enable/disable various map features such as planets and stations by clicking on the 'eye' icon.







it's not only the planets that pop up , it's the labels from the sigs already probed out previously/visited - there is no way to turn these off and in a system that has 20-30 sigs mostly centered in the middle of the system which happens a lot it's a real pain.

interfers with me grabbing the arrows, even the core probes pop up to let me know they're on my map

I tried turning them off but you can't. CCP should allow us to turn them off like the "Hide All Bracket" function so we get a clearer view of what we're doing, so only sigs not probed to 100% may be shown. Basically, NO MORE LABELS.

Thank you.

The labels do need a switch to turn them off, yes. It's quite a chore working around them when you are digging through a pile of 30-odd sigs in a system that may only have a radius of 10AU or so.
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#10 - 2013-02-12 14:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: VegasMirage
GM Arcade wrote:
Thorian Crystal wrote:
While I am scanning something, the planets get on the way every so often. When I am trying to move a probe, no, it pops up a list of planets or other entities. But when I am probing, of course I want to move the probes around, not check what planets etc there might be. Also I get the results of probing in a separate dialog...

One nice solution to this would be that set all planet icons etc to the background. I will move the probes away, if I want to see any planets by any chance. The probing UI should be primarily for probing, anyway. I have never needed to check any planets in the probing window.

The same primary / secondary goes to many other things too. For example on a wreck "open" command should be high in the menu instead of several others that I rarely use. Even locking to a wreck is now higher than open though there is not much reason to blow loot up.


With regards to the planet information popping up you can disable what information is shown by opening the map (f10), then selecting the 'Solar System Map' tab. In this tab you can enable/disable various map features such as planets and stations by clicking on the 'eye' icon.






perhaps add the (100%) signature labels to that list of items allowed to be canceled from view - thanks

no more games... it's real this time!!!