EVE General Discussion

Congrats CCP, you've officially, f*cked Gallente Pilots who trained for the Dominix, or any drone based ship. The hard time I put into maximizing my drone skills, have become completely useless. Drones get insta popped in missions, belt ratting, or anoms.


Honestly, you guys gave an AI to something that wasn't ever intended to be as smart as the Sleepers. That's like giving the carrier class capitals, fighter bombers because they can hold/deploy them with the bandwidth/space. It's absurd.


That was complaint number one.


Complaint number two. The Drone AI themselves, needs a massive overhaul. Ships like the Ishtar, Myrmidon, Dominix, don't really have a place on the battlefield anymore, simply because their too drone dependent. Someone will argue that they are good solo ships, yeah they are. Ever lose all your drones? What're you going to do next?


Honestly, its as if you guys stopped giving a crap, and started doing dumbsh*t like Blizzard did. The ultimate question I would have to ask is, when could we potentially see an update for this absurd, and ******** change. I understand the need to combat afk mission runners, but there are other ways to go about it.

Drone ships are much stronger than before, especially Dominix. Tristan and Algos do extremely well in small ship pew.

Dominix does (even) more damage due to DDA IIs. It's a T1 ship that nets me over 100mil per hour from PVE and has an astonishing array of uses in PVP.

What are you talking about? If you have your "drone skills maximized" then you already know that any drones other than sentries sucked at PVE even before AI changes happened.

Navy Dominix with sentries is even more powerful now with introduction of drone damage mods and MJD.

[Dominix Navy Issue, IWIN]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Large Armor Repairer II

Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link
Prototype 100MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Micro Jump Drive

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
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[empty high slot]

Large Ionic Field Projector II
Large Ionic Field Projector II
Large Ionic Field Projector II


Garde II x5
Bouncer II x5
Warden II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

If you just crying about nerfed afk income (aka "get aggro on 2xLAR dominix, unleash the drones, wait for ISK on wallet") - then cry more. "Adapt or die" principle working as intended.

I find it quite hilarious that a TEST member would talk smack. I am, however, blue to you, so I will leave the trolling, and flaming for the TEST forums.


3 days ago, I could land in a site, hold aggro, launch drones, and orbit something with the AB on. I try to do the same thing now, and about 10 seconds after getting aggro, and throwing drones, instantly flips with aggro, and insta pops a drone. I mean, I wouldn't care so much, but I tried it in my Thanatos, same story, though it took them longer to kill the fighters, but nonetheless, still a broken mechanic.


Since TEST is in Blood Raider space, you have to keep a significant amount of range away from the battleships, I mean, at least in an ishtar I can keep range easier.


Someone said the Dominix has more damage because of DDA2s. Have you ever tried tanking a L4 without a full barrage of tank? Warp into the final room in Angel Extravaganza L4, and then try the bonus room. You'll get stomped.


@ ITTigerClawIK

I don't AFK, especially since the bulk of my PvE is in nullsec, and TEST fails to kill nuetrals, or reds as they come into the area. Its pretty much like shooting fish in a barrel. Doesn't matter if I use sentries or not, they will still get aggro, and if you hadn't noticed, sitting still in an ishtar, isn't the best thing to do. Maybe in a dual Rep Dominix that would work, but not for an ishtar. Stop repeating what others have already said. Waste of time for others to read the garbage.

Yeah, how dare CCP have mission NPCs that do anything other than sit there passively while you kill them with no effort or risk at all involved. How dare they do anything to make missions even remotely challenging instead of just effortless ISK grinding. In fact, why stop at outrage over this change? I'm going to be outraged and make daily whine threads until CCP removes mission NPC AI entirely and has them just explode and transfer all of the loot and bounty directly to my hangar/wallet as soon as I accept the mission!

In conclusion: missions need to be harder, not easier. This should be just the starting point on a path to making level 4 missions an exciting challenge, not just mindless ISK farming. Hopefully future patches will massively boost NPC damage to the level of equivalent pvp ships, remove spawn timers and aggro range and have NPC fleets react to hostile targets with immediate and concentrated attacks, have NPCs warp out and take the mission objective with them if you kill too many of them and threaten to win (unless you tackle the objective and stop it), etc. Oh yes, and since it's unrealistic to have thousands of pirate battleships flying around highsec while the police do nothing all level 4s should be moved to NPC 0.0.