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dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-02-01 11:39:51 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
dexington wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.
Faction warfare.
actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.


I've only been in FW for less then a months, but if you are looking to PvP without having to commit to joining a corp or just want to solo, i think it good fun. You can fly cheap ships, the complex gate mechanic makes fights more predictable then low-sec gates, and you get isk while you camp the gate.

I'm sure you can make more isk outside FW, i know i did, but with a limited schedule i think FW is the best option.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#22 - 2013-02-01 12:04:41 UTC
Casual PvP is easy to come by.

Usually I'm not even wearing pants...
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#23 - 2013-02-01 12:22:44 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Go pirate if you're a man
Fw if you're a scrub
And rvb if you're a scrub thats afraid of low sec


No all kidding aside, I'd say rvb untill you have at least 40 kills and 20 losses. FW until you have double that.



(Or you can do what i did and join a really good pvp corp and start flying with them, but that is more of a jumping in on the deep end thing)




If you really want to pvp though thing number 1. 2 and 3 is GET THE **** OUT OF HIGHSEC, Don't believe what anyone tells you, high sec pvp is ******* terrible.


(Edit also note if you go -5 and have issues with logistics, it only takes 1-2 weeks to train a on account alt to use a hauler properly and then you can use him to buy stuff in jita and haul it to a low sec border system. You can then pick it up there yourself with your main (Faction police can't catch anything))



joining blob corp is not good idea for start ... u will not learn a **** .... no offence to BYDI ... was good corp in past, but SDHC is blob or nothing.




Yea.. BYDI does mostly small gang/solo frig/cruiser roams as a corp while joining alliance blobbing every once in a while..


(Excluding a couple of guys who spend way too much time farming the lisb noob traffic <.<)

Also when i started flying with BYDI it wasn't in SC

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#24 - 2013-02-01 12:36:06 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
dexington wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Faction warfare.




actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.


I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#25 - 2013-02-01 13:23:43 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
dexington wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Faction warfare.




actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.


I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits.



I am talking about global system capture and tiers mechanics .... plexes are quite good and ballanced now and encourage limited small scale pvp ...
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#26 - 2013-02-01 14:35:31 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
dexington wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Faction warfare.




actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.


I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits.



I am talking about global system capture and tiers mechanics .... plexes are quite good and ballanced now and encourage limited small scale pvp ...



The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#27 - 2013-02-01 15:06:55 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:


Faction warfare.

......

The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever


was allways like this and yes it allows u to fight the bait and still sruvive in case blob arrives ... i feel more important that u cannot light cyno on the plex grid.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#28 - 2013-02-01 16:05:50 UTC
Taoist Dragon wrote:
I have found that FW'ers will be more likely to fight if you are a WT but just run if you are a neutral (pirate)




I haven't noticed any difference. If people want to fight they do, it's just that most don't. By being able to fight all militias you definitely increase your pvp opportunities.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#29 - 2013-02-01 16:14:02 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
dexington wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Faction warfare.




actual fw has broken mechanics ... it is much better to be part of FW as a external force with alt to make u isk.


I assume you are talking about the plex mechanics? I personally just do FW for the pvp, sitting on a button waiting for a target is just gravy as far as I'm concerned; even then I usually don't sit on it long unless the FC tells me to. The really good thing about FW is that if you only shoot the WTs, then you don't have to worry about gate guns or sec status hits.



No gate guns unless you are fighting on a gate or by a station. Neither is generally a good idea unless you are playing station games, gate camping, or in a blob. The good fights are at the plexes.

The sec status hits are capped at -5 unless you start podding people.

CCP did some seriously good work fixing crimewatch for low sec pvpers.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#30 - 2013-02-02 01:06:45 UTC
Hidden Snake wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:


Faction warfare.

......

The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever


was allways like this and yes it allows u to fight the bait and still sruvive in case blob arrives ... i feel more important that u cannot light cyno on the plex grid.




everything about them is in the favor of the small guy

You cannot warp TO anyone so you can't suddenly have 20 guys dropped on your head if you're careful, you can split up gangs, control ship types

its just a fantastic mechanic


But yes the cyno thing is huge.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#31 - 2013-02-02 01:35:18 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Hidden Snake wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:


Faction warfare.

......

The way plexes affect warping is one of the best mechanics ever


was allways like this and yes it allows u to fight the bait and still sruvive in case blob arrives ... i feel more important that u cannot light cyno on the plex grid.




everything about them is in the favor of the small guy

You cannot warp TO anyone so you can't suddenly have 20 guys dropped on your head if you're careful, you can split up gangs, control ship types

its just a fantastic mechanic


But yes the cyno thing is huge.



Faction war plexes are the best thing CCP ever did for small scale pvp.

To what has already been mentioned I would add "sliding" as a very nice feature of fw plexes. No blobbing the the gates in. I am surprised more small scale pvpers don't use them.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2013-02-03 02:55:02 UTC  |  Edited by: SeaSaw
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Good Kin Netics;

If you have a job then you should just buy plex and sell it. 100 bucks will get you billions. Per hour farming vs per hour working makes plex great if you make more than a few bucks an hour irl.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
Kin Netics
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2013-02-03 19:30:34 UTC
SeaSaw wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Good Kin Netics;

If you have a job then you should just buy plex and sell it. 100 bucks will get you billions. Per hour farming vs per hour working makes plex great if you make more than a few bucks an hour irl.

your humble servent
SeaSaw


p2w works imo honestly Twisted
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#34 - 2013-02-03 22:27:18 UTC
SeaSaw wrote:
Kin Netics wrote:
Is this even possible? My job takes up a ton of time and I have little time to farm, like maybe an hour a day if I'm lucky. Any suggestions on how to accomplish this? I would like to have the ability to fit like 10 ships and not care if I lose them.


Good Kin Netics;

If you have a job then you should just buy plex and sell it. 100 bucks will get you billions. Per hour farming vs per hour working makes plex great if you make more than a few bucks an hour irl.

your humble servent
SeaSaw


A 100 times this

Unless you enjoy Pve don't ruin your eveing with diong too much of it.. Doing stuff that falls on your lap for easy isk is great (Like fw plexes getting massively broken for a while)

But if you think about it, most guys who are making real ammounts of isk are running like 4 accounts to do it.. thats 4 plex a month.

so you need to make about 1.8 bill at least just to be in the green.. And honestly not many need more than 1.8 bill a month average..

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

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