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Smaller Alliances/Corps Need To Take Their Game Back

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Hench Tenet
The Suicide Kings
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#201 - 2013-02-01 17:33:55 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:



Know what's hilarious?

These people (who are CLEARLY on unemployment or some other form of Government assistance) think it's funny that I'm a truck driver. They then call me "useless" because I'm not able to strap in for every single goddamned fleet that's posted on jabber, or the fact that I have less than 5 mill SP and no kills when I clearly told them I was in the process of training up SBs, EVEMON way not simply being able to sit in one. WTF is the point in me coming on a fleet with a bare minimum SB? What use would I be? Let alone the fact that about 60% of Test is inactive and/or alts. So my simply logging in a lone and training to be useful in the future is contributing.

I'm an owner operator. I own my own business and have 3 other trucks driving for me.

My gross last year was roughly $170,000.

Net was roughly $95,000. That's just my truck, not including my cut from the other drivers.

I'm not saying this to brag. I'm simply pointing out the humor in a bunch of underachievers IRL calling me useless because of my lack of pixel accolades.

If these people worked 40 hours per week, let alone the 80-90 I usually put in, they'd see how hard it is to be ultra-active when you're doing grown up things instead of eating hotpockets and playing EVE all damned day.


Haha, really? Ignoring the strange insults and accusations, if you can't play eve online, why do you... play eve online? People called you useless not for going on few fleets, but for not going on any fleets. Nobody cares about your SP. Going through the dreddit newbie process and not seeing that is incredibly blind. You then go on to talk about irrelevant things (all alliances have many alts).

You were kicked because you are abrasive, quick to anger, attention seeking, and unironically bad at the game in every way.
Zah Damaja
Perkone
Caldari State
#202 - 2013-02-01 18:08:07 UTC
I CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT EVE THAT I'M GOING TO SPEND AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT IT

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Spurty
#203 - 2013-02-01 18:20:03 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
I CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT EVE THAT I'M GOING TO SPEND AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT IT


Don't you have a ton of space to protect before it gets taken away?

Oh wait, only 1st of Feb.

Carry on trolling the trolls (for now).

Posting mostly because of heinous use of crapslock

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP

Zah Damaja
Perkone
Caldari State
#204 - 2013-02-01 18:40:49 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
I CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT EVE THAT I'M GOING TO SPEND AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT IT


Don't you have a ton of space to protect before it gets taken away?

Oh wait, only 1st of Feb.

Carry on trolling the trolls (for now).

Posting mostly because of heinous use of crapslock


Don't troll the trolling troll who's trolling a troll.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Needmore Longcat
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
Jump Drive Appreciation Alliance
#205 - 2013-02-02 04:19:16 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
I CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT EVE THAT I'M GOING TO SPEND AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT IT


Don't you have a ton of space to protect before it gets taken away?

Oh wait, only 1st of Feb.

Carry on trolling the trolls (for now).

Posting mostly because of heinous use of crapslock


Don't troll the trolling troll who's trolling a troll.



Ocean of ****.

edit: apparently I should have said

Ocean of urine.
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#206 - 2013-02-02 04:47:24 UTC
Spurty wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
I CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT EVE THAT I'M GOING TO SPEND AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT IT


Don't you have a ton of space to protect before it gets taken away?

Oh wait, only 1st of Feb.

Carry on trolling the trolls (for now).

Posting mostly because of heinous use of crapslock


He's been in Test for 1 month.

He's just being a good drone, trying to rack up some brownie points posting in forums about how useless to Test I was meanwhile contributing nothing himself.


Funny thing is, he doesn't even know me. Never even spoken to him. This idiot just decided to jump in on the bashing bandwagon to make some buddies. Sad really. No one thinks for themselves anymore.
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#207 - 2013-02-02 05:58:47 UTC
Max Doobie wrote:
Spurty wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
I CARE SO LITTLE ABOUT EVE THAT I'M GOING TO SPEND AN UNNECESSARY AMOUNT OF TIME COMPLAINING ABOUT IT


Don't you have a ton of space to protect before it gets taken away?

Oh wait, only 1st of Feb.

Carry on trolling the trolls (for now).

Posting mostly because of heinous use of crapslock


He's been in Test for 1 month.

He's just being a good drone, trying to rack up some brownie points posting in forums about how useless to Test I was meanwhile contributing nothing himself.


Funny thing is, he doesn't even know me. Never even spoken to him. This idiot just decided to jump in on the bashing bandwagon to make some buddies. Sad really. No one thinks for themselves anymore.


I do not believe that you can make the statement that a person does not know you since there have been plenty of posts by you and about you within this forum and various other forums. The statements they make are generic enough that they can be added to you without a qualifier of having ever spoken to you and finally wouldn't the fact that the person has chosen to "jump in on the bashing bandwagon to make some buddies" mean they did, as a fact, think for themselves? Since by choosing a "side" and earning "brownie points" means that they understand the long game of interrelationships with people?
Pepper Mind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#208 - 2013-02-02 07:14:50 UTC
max, i like your initial post and also, that you give a steady reply. my question to you is, why you complain abour the fact, that it is so hard to join them, if you want others not to join?

I also heard about players, who invest time, patience and risk, to harm those great alliances, by spying, robbing..
there is also more than shooting, eve provides.
pepper
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#209 - 2013-02-02 07:15:05 UTC
MY TRUCK
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#210 - 2013-02-02 09:13:37 UTC
Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:
MY TRUCK

There'd be no owner operators if it wasn't for us trucks.
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#211 - 2013-02-02 23:11:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Doobie
Pepper Mind wrote:
max, i like your initial post and also, that you give a steady reply. my question to you is, why you complain abour the fact, that it is so hard to join them, if you want others not to join?

I also heard about players, who invest time, patience and risk, to harm those great alliances, by spying, robbing..
there is also more than shooting, eve provides.
pepper



I'm not necessarily saying to not join Test. I'm really wanting newer players to stop being suckered into thinking that big=better, as I did.

Hey, Test works for some folks, obviously. Some like that sort of environment. I won't sit here and say Test did no good by me at all. I saw a thread the other day saying there's racism in Test. I defended them. I continuously speak up for them in regards to RMTing allegations. I met lots of very cool bros in Test. I learned a lot as well. However there comes a point where people need to remember this is a game. I am not fond of being censored and told what to think. I am not fond of being criticized for responding to ****-posting with ****-posting in an Alliance that brags about its ****-posting. They, bottom line simply did not like the fact that I

A) Didn't back down from their little Boy's Club within the Alliance insulting me. A few have even stated that they stopped liking me when they saw my interaction with a member named "Nynjato" who is their scamming God. I flat out said that I didn't give a rat's ass who he was, I won't take **** from him or any of them....pretty much downhill from there. I'd ask simply newbie questions and some of them felt the need to come in the thread and be complete and total dickheads for no reason. I responded accordingly. Again, downhill from there.

B) Didn't go along to get along as many in this thread are doing. 95% of the Test members that you seeing coming here to give their take on my character have never even interacted with me. They're simply jumping on the bandwagon. I'm sorry but I consider that extremely weak and lame.

But hey again some folks may like that atmosphere where you get "hazed" and f'ked with if you're outside of the "Circle", yet are jumped on for coming right back at them. Not me. Come at me, I comeback. Be cool with me and I'm cool. The Test guys learned real quick not to come to me with that chest thumping, bullying crap. I don't give a damn about staying in your dumbass Alliance, being accepted by the sheep or any of that crap if it means abandoning my dignity. Especially in a video game.
Krazynikomo
Perkone
Caldari State
#212 - 2013-02-03 06:39:38 UTC
I like how butthurt the OP is because he got kicked from TEST for being such a massive unsocial autistic sperg, and then he tries to claim it's TEST's fault that he's such a massive unsocial autistic sperg.
Kryss Darkdust
The Skulls
#213 - 2013-02-03 09:35:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kryss Darkdust
I think you have put too much stock in the importance and influence of large alliances in the current meta game of Eve. There was a time when alliances and alliance blocs carried with them a certain prestige and power, alliances and blocs where able to do things a small corp or an individual never could.

This however is no longer the case in part because CCP has effectively re-designed the game slowly but surely to make certain that large blocs and alliances are only relevant to each other, not the rest of Eve. What Goons, Test or any Null SOV holding alliance does today is utterly and completely irrelevant to the individual player, small corp or alliance other than the occasional bump in the prices which in itself is completely irrelevant.

There are two key reasons for this. First and foremost, the inflation of the economy has resulted in the average Eve player being able to afford pretty much anything they like. ISK has no value anymore and as such blocs influence on the economy is irrelevant. It doesn't matter if a X ship costs 100 million or 300 million, either amount is nothing, most Eve players poop that out on a daily basis without even playing. The whole Tech Moon control crap.. it only matters to the blocs out in Null Sec, to a small corp like me a few extra million for whatever... I don't even flinch. Utterly and completely irrelevant.

Secondly is space control. There was a time when alliances could control who does and doesn't walk through their space but with wormholes appearing all over the place, its no longer possible to keep people out. I can rat in NULL sec anytime I feel like it and these alliances can't stop me. Worse yet in most cases they are forced to run from my crew as they rarely have the resources and time to put in to try and stop someone from ratting in their back yard. Its only propaganda and fear that keeps people out of null sec, but the alliances can't do **** about it and most people out there don't even bother trying.

In essence, what Null Sec blocs do, has zero impact on the average Eve player. Money is no object and wormholes have made null sec a free ratting zone. There is absolutly no reason to pay for ratting rights or even be in a Null Sec alliances as you have access to all the same resources as an individual without having to ask Big Brother if you can do it. Blocs control over Eve is nothing more than propoganda done right. But it reality, they have no power anymore.

The reality of Eve is that, if you don't love it like it is today, you should probobly go ahead and unsub. 

Kari Juptris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#214 - 2013-02-04 19:17:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Kari Juptris
Quote:
If the Test-tube babies "like" this thread...they're going to love whats coming up in a few days. Not on EVE-O forums though...not on Test's either.

Just keep an eye out :)


It seems that Max "Owner Operator" Doobie's master plan culminated in an EN24 exposé.

LolRoll
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#215 - 2013-02-04 21:55:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Doobie
Kari Juptris wrote:
Quote:
If the Test-tube babies "like" this thread...they're going to love whats coming up in a few days. Not on EVE-O forums though...not on Test's either.

Just keep an eye out :)


It seems that Max "Owner Operator" Doobie's master plan culminated in an EN24 exposé.

LolRoll



http://evenews24.com/2013/02/04/opinion-dissenting-voices-of-the-honey-badger-coalition/

This is far from an "Expose'".

My issue isn't with Test. It's with those, like yourself, who have turned that Alliance that used to welcome and help new players see the beauty of EVE into a Circle-jerking, boys club, Brown-nose fest where unless you tow the line 100%, you will be trolled, attacked and booted. I was harassed and trolled relentlessly the very first time I even questioned one of your butt buddies in the "circle" (Nynjato). From there on out I was constantly accused of having a bad attitude" simply for refusing to fall in line and worship the Boy's Club.

That atmosphere will destroy Test and if allowed to take-over EVE in itself, will destroy this game. The core of this game is the players ability to think outside of the box and be his/her own person. You cannot do that in today's Test or GSF because it's all about being a robot and hoarding isk and anything that gets in the way of that is pushed out.
Kari Juptris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#216 - 2013-02-04 23:12:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kari Juptris
Quote:
This is far from an "Expose'".


thatsthejoke.jpg

How many more quotes do I need to dig out of our forums?

You were assaulted relentlessly because nobody liked you. You were a complete putz to anyone who you had any degree of contact with. Nobody came to your aid. Nobody. You also had 0 community integration, apart from attempting to scam people and being horrible at it to the point of burning other people's marks. You were a screaming child on the outskirts of our community who wanted everything his way, and eventually people got sick of you. You **** on us, and were shocked when we pulled our pants down and **** right back at you.

Notmo went straight to a diplo instead of talking to you because all forum posts of yours on our forums are some variation of "NYAAAAAAA". Are you so shocked that children are treated like children?

Your article would imply you spoke directly to Montolio. This is false, you posted in that huge threadnaught, and at a later date, Montolio broadcast to everybody that it was "not over.". You had 0 personal interaction with him, no backroom conference call.

And yes, you heard it here, folks. I'm the cancer that is killing TEST.

If people want to take the word over someone who was so spergy that he was booted from TEST, so be it.

edit: Also, please tell me that there is more to "keep an eye out for". This was pretty boring and has been done before by Gevlon.

edit 2: Check out Ogopogo Mu's post (#134) in your "To the doobie haters" thread. It's a winner.
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#217 - 2013-02-04 23:24:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Doobie
Kari Juptris wrote:
Quote:
This is far from an "Expose'".


thatsthejoke.jpg

How many more quotes do I need to dig out of our forums?

You were assaulted relentlessly because nobody liked you. You were a complete putz to anyone who you had any degree of contact with. Nobody came to your aid. Nobody. You also had 0 community integration, apart from attempting to scam people and being horrible at it to the point of burning other people's marks. You were a screaming child on the outskirts of our community who wanted everything his way, and eventually people got sick of you. You **** on us, and were shocked when we pulled our pants down and **** right back at you.

Notmo went straight to a diplo instead of talking to you because all forum posts of yours on our forums are some variation of "NYAAAAAAA". Are you so shocked that children are treated like children?

Your article would imply you spoke directly to Montolio. This is false, you posted in that huge threadnaught, and at a later date, Montolio broadcast to everybody that it was "not over.". You had 0 personal interaction with him, no backroom conference call.

And yes, you heard it here, folks. I'm the cancer that is killing TEST.

If people want to take the word over someone who was so spergy that he was booted from TEST, so be it.

edit: Also, please tell me that there is more to "keep an eye out for". This was pretty boring and has been done before by Gevlon.


You place much stock in "speaking personally with someone" to understand their perspectives, yet prior to this forum post, I've never spoken with you, so why then do you keep saying "us"?

Who is this "us" you are referring to? I don't even know who the hell you are.

Here again you are proving my point of this mob mentality within the blue bore. I've gotten along with plenty of people in Test. Yet I have issues with a select few, not including yourself, yet you feel the need to come here and speak on who I am as a person. You then say I don't know Montolio because I haven't spoken to him in person.

Congratulations. You have effectively called yourself a hypocrite.

You do not speak for Montolio. That is why I haven't said anything negative about him. He isn't the problem. He has allowed his alliance to be overtaken by people like you; those who seek to stifle dissenting voices.

I challenge you to provide screenshots not copy and pastes of posts I have made in Test forums whining because I "didn't get my way".

I challenge you to provide screenshots proving my "burning other people's marks".

You are a lying bandwagoning, insignificant Grunt who is looking for any opportunity to be accepted. I feel sorry for you.
Kari Juptris
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#218 - 2013-02-05 00:49:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Kari Juptris
About five minutes into blanking out names and explicatives in a whole page screenshot of https://forum.pleaseignore.com/topic/24098-first-scam/ I decided that I was spending way to much effort calling a ball round. If someone contacts me and legitimately wants to see it I'll post it, but at the moment all anyone needs to do is look at your EVEO posting history. This whole argument is started hinged on "WAHHH TEST KICKED ME" and you've segued into your current argument because your original one was horrible.

I said "us" once in my previous post, in the context of TEST as a whole. I do not think that it takes a genius to figure out that I am not including you in it.

You burnt all the people who liked you to start out with. When the **** hit the fan, nobody felt you were worth defending. I do see that you were amicable with some people, but you raged enough that they stopped caring later on.

I'm not speaking to who you are as a person.

You call me someone who would seek to stifle dissenting voices, yet I am one myself. I was openly against a GROON reset when others were for it:

"Reiterating what others have said, a war with goons would be a terrible idea, but I'll follow into whatever crazy rabbit hole we're going into. "

Leadership may have been against a goon war, but line membership was overwhelmingly for it. Note that the quote echos sentiments against the war, but support for Monty. Complex positions are possible.

You are confusing dissenting voices with openly hostility and contempt.

Never said I speak for Monty. What I did say is that your article is misleading.

I'll play ball with the mark thing though. Looks like I was wrong about you actually burning the mark, but you sure did threaten: http://i.imgur.com/IMj9qUo.png (That was significantly easier to edit than the whole page up at the top of this post)

I might be bandwagoning (who doesn't love to prod someone who blows up like you when prodded?) , but you seem to imply that I derive my self worth from a video game. I'm pretty sure that I derive that from life, and the details of that are beyond the scope of this video game forum.

Maybe you're so easily trolled because you have the two mixed up?
ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#219 - 2013-02-05 01:00:02 UTC
Topic has become ranting and trolling in the extreme. Therefore the thread has been locked.

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