Crime & Punishment

Honestly, I wouldn't expect anyone from leadership or anyone with close ties to MirrorGod to be as immature and as bitter to others whom generally fought, laughed and raged with you guys. (Original Heretics) Do you realize that we generally DON'T care about who is CEO and who isn't? Most of us were completely apathetic towards the whole matter and the ones who sided with Karl simply did because he was around when MirrorGod wasn't. And I don't blame MirrorGod. Heretic Army was his doing and he built the name.

But you? The **** you spew in Amamake Local and the constant stream of taunts and insults...just astounds me that you would further alienate other Heretics. I don't know where MirrorGod stands with you on this. I don't think even he would condone you for berating us. Like everyone else, we just want to play the game! You're making NO attempts to alleviate the situation and you're invoking negative sentiment between Heretic Army and Heretic ArmyDOT.

TLDR: Grow the **** up and get MirrorGod and Karl to kiss or something. Jesus. This is pathetic.

Seriously, no one gives a ****. Keep your drama between yourselves.

Here, let's link all the API verified kills:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=16187688

Looks like we were in fleet and you guys got your asses handed to you. It's a shame your capitals didn't go down this time... but there's always next time! :)

-Liang

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA *breath* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA *breath* *pause* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.

Yet another Yendaj post in a matter that she shouldnt be concerned with? What are you going to take from MirrorGod now when you get bored and bash him? Another Revalation? His isk? His character?

This is pathetic, Yendaj/Vicarious/MirrorGod/Whoever you are.

Someone seem pretty mad that the got raped yesterday, Blueballed today and 0wned by PL. How many ships did you lose the past 3 days? Just curious becasue youre supposedly so awesome and l33t at this game with all your AMAZING contacts and friends!

Mirrorgod (MG) was a good FC and I'd be perfectly happy to fly in fleet when he leads it but that wasn't enough for him. Hence the power pull to try and rip the leadership away from Griz and Karl to himself.

During MG's time out of Heretics and in PL he lost his moon and tried to force Heretic Army to become his personal bank account to replace the moon by telling us that Heretic Army is no longer a pew corp and we're supposed to stop what we're doing train jump drive calibration V and get in carriers/train cyno alts to do low sec incursions 23.5/7. Accompanied by a very credible threat to remove Jude Lloyd (CEO at the time) with MG's 100% voting shares if it didn't happen, I feel they were right to pre-empt that threat by closing the corp and reforming it with MG no longer in voting control. Heretics was always a pew corp and all of us in Heretics are there for that reason, incursions is nothing like what we want and the whole suggestion was betraying Herertic's roots, so if Heretics was MG's baby, that's when he put it up for adoption. The Heretic Army MG created ceased to exist at this moment, the fact that Jude Lloyd saw fit to use the same name is immaterial. Had we not called ourselves Heretic Army again, MG's Heretic Army simply would have been empty and we'd have been calling ourselves something else. (We can probably arrange forum links to MG's posts on this if necessary, though I suspect no one else cares) The alternative was we could have reformed the corp under some other name but it would have been the same thing really. No one would have stayed in the corp to run incursions anyway, the options were reform or disband completely, incursions was simply not going to happen.

Because of the above I will never belong to a corp/alliance where MG is king. I have absolutely nothing against flying with him and it's not personal, but the tendency towards pulling power moves is not something I'm prepared to live with. Griz and Karl were right to keep roles away from MG for the above reason as well. If I wanted to render all unto Caesar I easily could have chosen to get into a null sec power bloc instead of living in low sec for so long. I'm much happier under the laissez-faire style of leadership I came to expect when I joined Heretics and Mirror was in PL. Had MG just been content to organize interesting fleets and run them I would have been perfectly happy to fly in them, but I don't blame Griz and Karl at all for being cautious about giving MG a power share.

EDIT: As for that edited mail, that was more for the benefit of people like me who had to work while the whole thing was going down. Chances are I would not have realized it was part of the fight otherwise, in any case what does it matter really. It's not as if Karl didn't post straight away the he had edited the mail for our personal KB (not BC or EvE Kill) just so we knew what went down, so I really have a hard time seeing it as a problem. If you were to look us up on any 3rd party board it wouldn't be there.

So MirrorGod, I'm kind of curious...did you enjoy your batphone of Shadow Cartel? I hear they enjoyed handing you your ass!

Dude, we popped Rebirth.

(And it's lowsec, you doofus.)

Why would need to train carriers and cyno alts to do low sec incursions?

To carrier jump to the next one immediately.

-Liang

Really don't care about most of this whole thing. We just want fun and to play the game. You can cause drama all you want, but most of us just plainly do not care. Post your faked and random bullshit.