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I want to see the other Tier 3 BC's

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Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2011-10-25 13:37:57 UTC
Test bonuses please ignore.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2011-10-25 13:44:48 UTC
Skippermonkey wrote:

Quote:

Oracle (Amarr)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Energy Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Energy Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

Naga (Caldari)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity
5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity
10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range
7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets
40% reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers
58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers

Talos (Gallente)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage
10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

Tornado (Minmatar)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret Rate of Fire
10% bonus to Large Projectile Turret falloff per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Projectile Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Projectile Turrets



So let's see - the caldari ship gets full bonuses to both weapons on a split weapons platform - totoally invalidating what CCP has always done in the past. And both the gallente and the caldari ships get role bonuses to Large Energy weapons?

No offense, but I think I'll wait until CCP publishes the official stats before I start celebrating/crying.

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David Grogan
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2011-10-25 13:48:12 UTC  |  Edited by: David Grogan
De'Veldrin wrote:
Skippermonkey wrote:

Quote:

Oracle (Amarr)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed
7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Energy Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Energy Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

Naga (Caldari)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity
5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity
10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range
7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets
40% reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers
58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers

Talos (Gallente)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret damage
10% bonus to the velocity factor of stasis webifiers per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets
50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

Tornado (Minmatar)
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus:
5% bonus to Large Projectile Turret Rate of Fire
10% bonus to Large Projectile Turret falloff per level.
Role Bonus
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Projectile Turrets
50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Projectile Turrets



So let's see - the caldari ship gets full bonuses to both weapons on a split weapons platform - totoally invalidating what CCP has always done in the past. And both the gallente and the caldari ships get role bonuses to Large Energy weapons?

No offense, but I think I'll wait until CCP publishes the official stats before I start celebrating/crying.



large HYBRID weapons not energy

i suspect the capt reduction was supposed to say large hybrid weapons.


but then again this is not the OFFICIAL SPECS from ccp

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#24 - 2011-10-25 13:48:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Skippermonkey wrote:
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
So as it stands?
No tank, resist or rep bonuses of any kind? I highly doubt that Shocked


You want large guns on a BC and a bonus to tank?

Because that would be perfectly balanced.



I don't want anything, I was asking.
These are odd ship stats and they may not be finished.

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Ariane VoxDei
#25 - 2011-10-25 13:53:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Ariane VoxDei
Efraya wrote:
Oracle
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed and 7.5% bonus to Large Energy Turret optimal range per level.
95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Energy Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Energy Turrets 50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets

Cap bonus needs to be -75%, not -50%, or it is effectively unbonused, not to mention completely cap-gimped compared to harbinger and prophecy (but who doesnt fit that one with projectiles instead).

Bad datamining or very sloppy dev work. Hate to think it is the latter.

ninjaedit: might even need to more than -75%, to accomodate tachyons.

Yep, just did the math. Slashing tachs by 75% would still be hungrier than (medium) heavy beams on a harbinger at BC V.
21.67/6 cap/s for heavy beam I
95/12.5s cap/s for Tach I
0.5*21.67/6 = 1.8
0.25*95/12.5 = 1.9.
Effective 5.5% more cap use at -75% bonus, per laser, compared to a harb/prophecy at BC V.
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#26 - 2011-10-25 13:56:53 UTC
Via Shivon
#27 - 2011-10-25 13:58:41 UTC
this thread is full of shitinfos
Rhinanna
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2011-10-25 13:59:13 UTC
Quote:
Naga
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.


If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships.

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Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#29 - 2011-10-25 14:08:03 UTC
Rees Noturana wrote:
Next:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150362915094394&set=a.77243934393.72638.17614129393


I hope this ship design makes it through.

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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#30 - 2011-10-25 14:15:20 UTC
The last picture like this was published in a dev blog the same day. I'd count on seeing it released today.

Oh, the picture in the background is just for reference. The one in the foreground is final art. Cool

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okst666
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2011-10-25 14:16:51 UTC
looks like the "drawn" version has turrets...so my bet goes for gallente.

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Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
#32 - 2011-10-25 14:20:43 UTC
Navigator just posted that he thinks the order is Minmatar, Gallente, Amarr and Caldari.

So, probably Gallente.

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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#33 - 2011-10-25 14:47:01 UTC
Torps/cruise on a BC would warm the cockles of my heart.

Just what are those anyway?


A torp/cruise BC will add a new dimension to the game. Expect to hear "because of Naga" a lot.


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Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
#34 - 2011-10-25 14:48:49 UTC
If the bonus are real, I reaaaaally like the Naga. Like a big Merlin, with mixed weapon systems P
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#35 - 2011-10-25 15:45:51 UTC
Rhinanna wrote:
Quote:
Naga
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.


If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships.


What crappy dual-weapon Minmatar ships? Lol

You balance ships, not bonuses. If the Caldari one is so fat,slow and hard to fit that it needs a fully-bonused dual weapon system, so be it. If Minmatar ships didn't have the built-in bonuses of speed, agility, small sigs, ease of fitting and bonuses to clearly the best weapon system, then you might have an argument for a comparable bonus.
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-10-25 16:06:29 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Rhinanna wrote:
Quote:
Naga
Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level.


If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships.


What crappy dual-weapon Minmatar ships? Lol


Fleet Scythe Lol

No sig.
Sader Rykane
Midnight Sentinels
#37 - 2011-10-25 17:02:11 UTC
Planktal wrote:
most likely the amarr one
Oracle


I hope not that things ugly as ****.
DK Reborn
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2011-10-25 17:09:35 UTC
Sader Rykane wrote:
Planktal wrote:
most likely the amarr one
Oracle


I hope not that things ugly as ****.


Agreed everywhere I read people are saying how awesome the mentor is. I agree I don't think it's too spectacular or even fits in with Amarr design
Tashanaka
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2011-10-25 17:17:45 UTC
DK Reborn wrote:
Sader Rykane wrote:
Planktal wrote:
most likely the amarr one
Oracle


I hope not that things ugly as ****.


Agreed everywhere I read people are saying how awesome the mentor is. I agree I don't think it's too spectacular or even fits in with Amarr design


I kind of like the Mentor hull.
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2011-10-25 17:36:49 UTC
Sam Bowein wrote:
If the bonus are real, I reaaaaally like the Naga. Like a big Merlin, with mixed weapon systems P


I prefer to think of it as a smaller Typhoon that (hopefully) won't look like a fleshlight.
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