Missions & Complexes

With the new Crimewatch rules this might be kind of redundant to some maybe useful to others.

So there you are flying around in your spanking pimp-fit marauder, Machariel, Tengu or what have you and some douche shows up in your mission after skillfully scanning your ass down. They pop one of your wrecks, go all flashy and you in your ignorance goes: Hey, wtf, dumbass can't be taking s**t from me, I am uber pve machine and noone can beat me.

*Cue irritating sound of the failhorn*

Sorry dudes and dudettes that isn't they way it works. You try to go all full-tilt on his ass in an "I'll shoot his dumb ship. Mash CTRL-Click and F1. And, hey, wtf now...I'm dying" because you reckon you can out-tank him and out-dps. sure, maybe in some instances this may be a viable end result, but more often than not you get pointed, and slowly ground to beautiful spacedust or quickly pulverized due to the fact that the baiter has beautiful friends waiting in the wings to swoop in and join in on the space gangbang.

The solution is awfully simple:

• First, in order to avoid baiters abandon your wrecks and dropped cargo containers (right-click wreck, etc in order make them "blue"). Why make them blue? Somebody else will steal them? You have to ask yourself, why risk your pimpfit for a piece of what is more than likely crappy loot. So "blue" your wrecks.
• Secondly, if you have a second account able to loot/salvage or just ride a shuttle to "cover your six".
• Thirdly and most importantly use d-scan religiously (if I could run d-scan like a radar - continuously - without having to click on the scan button I would).
• Fourthly, if you can't keep your "head" on a swivel then stop doing mission, stop pimping your ships and perhaps stop PvE altogether.

The standard rule for EVE - which we know and love so well - there is no such thing as safe space. Hi-sec is only "safer" to some extent with the basic premise that if they want to gank you they will - come hell or high water. 2-6 T1 fitted Talos/Tornados will make short work of any pimpfit moron flying foolheartedly through space thinking they are invulnerable.

Again - you can't avoid it (as erroneously stated in the title), you can only, to some extent, minimize the risk.

I just let them take what they want and don't shoot. It's only new players or people who don't know what they're trying to do that fall for it.
Those people are often the ones who never read forums and think that they can survive EVE without knowing anything going on around them.

blueing wreck would only protect against solo grieffer, cause even if they steal from you wreck, they go suspect, and only them.

tho, the common thing is that they'll steal, using fast frig so they can gtfo, and the second you engage, they'll grab a pvp fitted ship, and you are history.

but their fleet will not be able to assist them but by repping.


i recall that a year ago i used to have one of those guys trying to trick me this way, until one day i falled for it on purpose.

he warped out and got back in a sleipnir, but surprise, this was not the pve machariel he had scanned a couple time earlier that same week

sleipnir, i present you a nano pvp fitted machariel, machariel: sleipnir.

i let you guess what happened later



a rapid look at eve kill would have helped him tho, or scanning the machariel again (same ship / same name doesn't mean same fitting!), but he "assumed" that i was using my pve faction fit, he assumed that because i was heavily pve-ing, i was a carebear with no pvp skills.

important rule of EvE: never ASSUME, check and get facts

Ah yes, the end solution that isn't so common but ever so satisfying. I usually find that gankers/baiters are confronted with a pvp situation take things in better stride than PvE pilots when they lose. They already are accustomed to risk v. reward aspects of the situation.

The only reliable retaliation is to destroy the more valuable wrecks before they can get to them to loot.

Sometimes this makes them bored.

Sometimes.

Depends on the goal of the ninja. Loot or tears?

Not as smart as you think. at moderate distance, high tracking ACs or sentries would have instapopped him. At short distance, drones would have killed him off before he can click warp, with little warning as they close in the small gap.

That Zephyr is probably no longer around by now.

Just read down a little farther to Limited Engagements, which is where they go and say "You know when we said 'There is no A-to-B aggression flagging anymore, just global flags'? Yeah, that's not actually true."

Checking the Ninja-Looters´ combat history on battleclinic can be revealing as well.

Stand corrected...

so assisting a suspect gets you a global suspect, but attacking a suspect leads only to a LE?