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Why ECM is Bullshit

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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#1 - 2011-10-25 14:17:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty McKitty
Damps make no sense having worse range than ECM.

Honestly the thing I'd most like to see (other than bumping the strenght a bit, not all the way to pre-uber-nerf levels) for damps is to give damps a long, ECM style optimal and to cripple ECM optimal. Ewar is supposed to counter the racial opponent or compensate for racial weaknesses. Damps should let Gallnte boats force Caldari to engage at close range by reaching out; ECM ought to cripple close-range brawlers but have limited effect much beyond 10 - 20 km.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2011-10-25 14:20:09 UTC
Kitty McKitty wrote:
Samoa make no sense having worse range than ECM.
Well, it's a very small nation, so having poor range isn't that surprising…

…what?
Sir HappyPants
Caldari Innovations and Research
#3 - 2011-10-25 14:20:53 UTC
So "bullshit" passes the profanity filter?

EDIT: Yes it does! Behold, we can curse like adults!
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Pyre of Gods
#4 - 2011-10-25 14:23:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Tallianna Avenkarde
Kitty McKitty wrote:
Damps make no sense having worse range than ECM.

Honestly the thing I'd most like to see (other than bumping the strenght a bit, not all the way to pre-uber-nerf levels) for damps is to give damps a long, ECM style optimal and to cripple ECM optimal. Ewar is supposed to counter the racial opponent or compensate for racial weaknesses. Damps should let Gallnte boats force Caldari to engage at close range by reaching out; ECM ought to cripple close-range brawlers but have limited effect much beyond 10 - 20 km.



FYP before the spelling trolls come out, guessing you are posting from a phone. - edit: apparantly Tippia has some sort of sixth sense..

And agree wholeheartedly, since the nerf, damps have been a horridly underpowered EWAR compared to all the others (except maybe TP's...)

Increase range, bump up strength. It shouldn't take 3 bonused damps to be as effective an EWAR as 1 ECM.

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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#5 - 2011-10-25 14:29:23 UTC
sure, but you have to give up damps hitting 100% of the time
Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#6 - 2011-10-25 14:33:51 UTC
Talliana, absolutely. Bring 2 Failcons, lock out 6+ ships easy and from outside scramble range. Bring 2 Arazu and get 2 or 3 with comma to coordinate third Target.

Also yes I'm posting on a phone. Shame some people are dumb and just want to be heard being dumb :P

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#7 - 2011-10-25 14:35:01 UTC
Morganta wrote:
sure, but you have to give up damps hitting 100% of the time
To be fair, they don't…




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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2011-10-25 14:48:40 UTC
Moved from General Discussion.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#9 - 2011-10-25 17:18:59 UTC
Problem with the damps was that it allowed for ships to stay out of targeting range and brind down the hurt. Pernamently. This made some interceptors invunerable.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#10 - 2011-10-25 18:21:24 UTC
Sir HappyPants wrote:
So "bullshit" passes the profanity filter?

EDIT: Yes it does! Behold, we can curse like adults!



or at least like teenagers...

Not sure on this either way. More useful modules is a good thing ... but CCP isn't exactly known for keeping balance...

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