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New Eden Trade Group seeking loans (Full Collateral Available)
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Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-01-28 09:55:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Bad Bobby wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Im not familiar with torn soul, what is BMBE?

http://bmbe.big-eve.com/


Thanks for the heads up, we may consider this. However, we are going to try to leverage our assets for the most isk possible at the lowest rate. I think there are players who will work with us for a 2% monthly return because that seems to be the average for past fully secured loan offerings in market discussion forum .

Thanks again though
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire
#42 - 2013-01-28 14:05:31 UTC
I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#43 - 2013-01-28 16:46:25 UTC
Tom Hagen wrote:
I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.


Because they want to get lots of money from lots of different people.

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Yvormessier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2013-01-28 17:47:38 UTC
when people continually tout for investors

continually

continually

continually

well I guess you get the drift
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#45 - 2013-01-28 18:55:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Tom Hagen wrote:
I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.



Regarding our reputation, no worries mate. We are trying to do the right thing by coming to market discussion forum and are committed no matter what the out come.

Our ideal terms, and the terms of established lenders differ.

We are not Grendell or Chribba, but we do offer collateral. We dont have credibility, and we realize that, but everyone has to start somewhere. Keeping up on this post and offering collateral for isk is the right way to do things, and i feel we are bringing more to the table than most of the offerings from players with out a business record in forum.
Fractal Muse
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#46 - 2013-01-29 14:29:09 UTC
Yvormessier wrote:
when people continually tout for investors

continually

continually

continually

well I guess you get the drift

You mean like: Suspicious activity flag activated!

OP, if you guys are good at market trading and you've done it for a long while (as best I can tell you've been doing it for some time now) why do you still need loans?

Why not just sell the carriers, take that ISK, turn it into more ISK, and buy a new carrier?

Why are you asking for 'loans?'

Please, get down to the roots of what you are doing and explain, clearly, why you are trying to get loans and for what purpose.

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#47 - 2013-01-29 14:49:35 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Tom Hagen wrote:
I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.



Regarding our reputation, no worries mate. We are trying to do the right thing by coming to market discussion forum and are committed no matter what the out come.

Our ideal terms, and the terms of established lenders differ. The cancellation options are the main issue.

We are not Grendell or Chribba, but we do offer collateral. We dont have credibility, and we realize that, but everyone has to start somewhere. Keeping up on this post and offering collateral for isk is the right way to do things, and i feel we are bringing more to the table than most of the offerings from players with out a business record in forum.


2% is too low expecially if collateral are carriers and similar.
Also, I am providing loans in a thread like 4-5 posts below this, you might want to see some economic terminology, study this forum a bit for common interest rates and see if there are loaning services before you commit into creating a thread that shows you did not do all your homeworks and thus makes your life harder and more trolled.

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Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#48 - 2013-01-29 21:11:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Tom Hagen wrote:
I am sorry to say you guys have started to get a tarnished reputation in here :-/
The %-rate you are offering is on the same level when it is secured by Chribba or Grenedell, I get 2% from Grendell atm.
Why should I accept the same low return from you?
If you have collateral, after all this debacle why don't you just use the established lenders out there for a while instead?

Anyway Good luck.



Regarding our reputation, no worries mate. We are trying to do the right thing by coming to market discussion forum and are committed no matter what the out come.

Our ideal terms, and the terms of established lenders differ. The cancellation options are the main issue.

We are not Grendell or Chribba, but we do offer collateral. We dont have credibility, and we realize that, but everyone has to start somewhere. Keeping up on this post and offering collateral for isk is the right way to do things, and i feel we are bringing more to the table than most of the offerings from players with out a business record in forum.


2% is too low expecially if collateral are carriers and similar.
Also, I am providing loans in a thread like 4-5 posts below this, you might want to see some economic terminology, study this forum a bit for common interest rates and see if there are loaning services before you commit into creating a thread that shows you did not do all your homeworks and thus makes your life harder and more trolled.


Thanks for the heads up, see "regarding established lenders" towards the center of original post.
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#49 - 2013-01-29 21:17:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Fractal Muse wrote:
Yvormessier wrote:
when people continually tout for investors

continually

continually

continually

well I guess you get the drift

You mean like: Suspicious activity flag activated!

OP, if you guys are good at market trading and you've done it for a long while (as best I can tell you've been doing it for some time now) why do you still need loans?

Why not just sell the carriers, take that ISK, turn it into more ISK, and buy a new carrier?

Why are you asking for 'loans?'

Please, get down to the roots of what you are doing and explain, clearly, why you are trying to get loans and for what purpose.



We have no desire to disclose every detail about our manufacturing and trade operations, this is why we are offering full collateral for requested loans. One of our biggest concerns is competition.
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#50 - 2013-01-29 21:34:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Coffee
I will supply you with 1b for every Archon you have being held by Ch, Gr, or VV @ 15% monthly. How 'bout that? Cool

Edit: Oxford Comma to get more attention and Likes Twisted

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Jateel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-01-30 02:03:54 UTC
I invested with New Eden Trade Group about 2 months ago and have been pretty satisfied with the returns, communication, and level of professionalism. Just my 2 isk.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#52 - 2013-01-30 11:59:43 UTC
Jateel wrote:
I invested with New Eden Trade Group about 2 months ago and have been pretty satisfied with the returns, communication, and level of professionalism. Just my 2 isk.


for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

@JerryTPepridge
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#53 - 2013-01-30 20:00:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Jateel wrote:
I invested with New Eden Trade Group about 2 months ago and have been pretty satisfied with the returns, communication, and level of professionalism. Just my 2 isk.


for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.



There is no need to provide screenshots. From what I understand screenshots can easily be edited with Microsoft paint to support whatever motive one may have.

Thank you for the suggestion though.
Jateel
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-01-30 20:15:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Jateel
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Jateel wrote:
I invested with New Eden Trade Group about 2 months ago and have been pretty satisfied with the returns, communication, and level of professionalism. Just my 2 isk.


for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.


Uh yeah...wow. I don't intend to prove anything. I only weighed into this thread because I was stunned at the level of paranoia and spite over a simple business proposal. If one is skeptical, they should just move on. Why such emotion?

I haven't bothered to read all the posts, but I have to assume you must be a competitive entity trying to undermine NETG. I don't think a lot of the criticism is made in good faith.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#55 - 2013-01-30 20:39:16 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Jateel wrote:
I invested with New Eden Trade Group about 2 months ago and have been pretty satisfied with the returns, communication, and level of professionalism. Just my 2 isk.


for a moment, i'm going to pretend you are a real player.

you say you have had "returns", can OP, and yourself provide identical screenshots, showing these "returns". with a timestamped date in the journal

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

you could even have this post up in the screenshot, with the journal entry's for you sending and receiving payments. (just blank out the others, only the 1 line is fine, you can hide your balance as well.)

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.

if its legit, what do you have to lose?, you aren't giving away market gems are you. it would add some weight to your claims, and possibly score you a low interest rate loan, and give your clients some confidence in you

that is assuming you are a real player and not an alt of OP.


I'm willing to bet that the Jateel character is the main of the Ethan Freeman dude. Or a different one of them, given the longer history under their name.

This Ethan freeman character was created earlier this month.

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#56 - 2013-01-30 21:35:59 UTC
Jateel wrote:


Uh yeah...wow. I don't intend to prove anything. I only weighed into this thread because I was stunned at the level of paranoia and spite over a simple business proposal. If one is skeptical, they should just move on. Why such emotion?


talking about emotions...for somebody who is not related to the op you are overly emotional attached to them, imho.

why dont prove it tho? its nearly no effort and would be the first sign ever for them to look at least a bit legit.

shar'ra phone home
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#57 - 2013-01-30 22:18:55 UTC
shar'ra matcevsovski wrote:
Jateel wrote:


Uh yeah...wow. I don't intend to prove anything. I only weighed into this thread because I was stunned at the level of paranoia and spite over a simple business proposal. If one is skeptical, they should just move on. Why such emotion?


talking about emotions...for somebody who is not related to the op you are overly emotional attached to them, imho.

why dont prove it tho? its nearly no effort and would be the first sign ever for them to look at least a bit legit.



We already know that we aren't going to see any solid proof.

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Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#58 - 2013-01-30 22:20:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Gentlemen, and any ladies, there is no sense arguing about whether or not Jateel is an alt of mine because there is no way too prove it either way. Jateel could be an alt of mine on an account that is in no way connected to NETG. I fund my game time with plex, so only ccp could identify ip adresses, there is no payment history, but even that isn't 100%.
Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#59 - 2013-01-30 22:33:05 UTC
You didn't respond to my offer.

Let's see why

Probably cause that's something you consider non-sense even though it's a pretty valid one, well maybe a bit over the top on interest but considering every aspect that's a damn valid one.

But it helps to make a conclusion that if something you consider non-sense happens, you bail and ignore it. Even though it could have been negotiable.

/thread?

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shar'ra matcevsovski
Doomheim
#60 - 2013-01-30 22:36:23 UTC  |  Edited by: shar'ra matcevsovski
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Jateel could be an alt of mine on an account that is in no way connected to NETG.


no s*h*i*t? :p

you could actually prove it by just sending said api/pictures;). But if you still dont prove it after all the crying and trying, I can only assume you dont prove it because you cant

shar'ra phone home