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Sleipnirs - Good or bad?
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Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-30 09:16:55 UTC
So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks.
I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad?
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#2 - 2013-01-30 09:20:43 UTC
Sleipnir is, without a doubt, the best battlecruiser hull in the game. Literally, what do you want to do in it? Cause it can do everything but armor tank.
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-01-30 09:52:46 UTC
solo pvp and small gabg. you got tips/fit
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#4 - 2013-01-30 10:05:49 UTC
It depends what you're doing.

Brawl/kite/passive/active ?
Rajere
Vicious Inc
#5 - 2013-01-30 10:08:21 UTC
tip: Join a corp with a clue. consensus is sleipnir is the best battlecruiser hull in eve.
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-30 10:09:46 UTC
one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips?
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-01-30 10:15:37 UTC
generaly i was thonking at staying at range of point but not of neuts and using actie tank/asb but im not sure if its the right way to use sleipnor
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-30 10:25:56 UTC
Sleipnir is awesome, but it's definitely not the best battlecruiser in game. Why, you might ask? First and foremost, because it's not a battlecruiser, it's a command ship ;)
FerrenoNL
Private Banking Services
#9 - 2013-01-30 10:39:49 UTC  |  Edited by: FerrenoNL
I used to have this one for ASB fit:

http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17482182

I love Sleipnirs though dont use them too often. Im not sure how effective this is post-ASB-nerf but I remember it was pretty much maxed out fitting wise. Sleipnir is great for solo work because it has the speed and agility combined with what I think is one of the better shield tanks in the game.

You can still get the most out of it by getting a crystal set, set up a boosting alt & use blue pills. Obviously once you get that booster it is no longer solo...

Gotta keep a bit of range though, fight in falloff where possible. I dont have any other fits handy but like the rest said you can just about do anything with the hull.
Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-30 11:15:31 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks.


Could you please elaborate on this? How was that conclussion reached? Because I bought one just to try, and with tears of joy in my eyes I stopped whatever I was training, and finished Command Ships V and Trajectory Analysis V so I could forever live in Autocannon Sleipnir paradise.

It tanks like a beast, it has amazing agility, it reaches more than 50Km with its SHORT range weapon system and Barrage, and loaded with Hail and within 20Km, armor tanks literally melt in its presence.

Doomhammar wrote:
I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad?


Tip: don't listen to those corpmates. The Sleipnir is fearsome. It's wonderful.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#11 - 2013-01-30 11:44:52 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips?


Sleipnir will take a tier 3 BC when setup properly. It can't out-sniper one, but it will straight up smash one in seconds within point range. Here's a popular setup, if a little cookie cutter:

[Sleipnir, Dual XL-ASB]

Damage Control II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 400
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
[Empty High slot]

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#12 - 2013-01-30 11:51:42 UTC
Caitlyn Tufy wrote:
Sleipnir is awesome, but it's definitely not the best battlecruiser in game. Why, you might ask? First and foremost, because it's not a battlecruiser, it's a command ship ;)


"BC Hull"
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
#13 - 2013-01-30 12:13:11 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
one point of discussion was that a bc like naga will outtake a sleipnir. any actual tips?
.... I'm pretty sure you're trolling now.
Doomhammar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-30 12:39:25 UTC
dual asb? isnt faction shield bboster with capacitor booster instead?
FerrenoNL
Private Banking Services
#15 - 2013-01-30 12:42:24 UTC
The beauty of the ASB's is that you can take on a wider variety of targets, ships that would otherwise neut the crap out of you are now possible to kill and you still come out unscratched.
Danny John-Peter
The Congregation
RAPID HEAVY ROPERS
#16 - 2013-01-30 13:19:35 UTC
If you have a Tengu booster a faction booster + CB is pretty doable, and your corp is bad, and they should feel bad, the Sleipnir is the most potent BC hull out there, massive DPS, massive tank, good range and speed and a favourable slot layout.

[Sleipnir, Sleipnir]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
Dread Guristas Warp Scrambler
10MN Microwarpdrive II

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Capacitor Safeguard II


This is pretty standard for a Sleipnir, you can go three gyros but 2x TE lets you kite around a bit and split gangs up while still applying damage.

Med Neut for dealing with tackle, faction scram for the extra range and because its fairly cheap, you can obviously spend more, this is probably the minimum I would spend on a CS.

You can also do a comedy brawl Claymore;

[Claymore, Danny]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Damage Control II

Pith C-Type X-Large Shield Booster
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
True Sansha Medium Capacitor Booster, Navy Cap Booster 800
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Prototype 'Arbalest' Rapid Light Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Scourge Light Missile
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I


Valkyrie II x3
Warrior II x2

But the sleip is more Deepsy.
Eternal Error
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-30 15:10:08 UTC
If this isn't a troll, then you should never listen to the person that told you this again. Additionally, they should be kicked from corp/alliance and strongly encouraged to biomass.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#18 - 2013-01-30 16:41:08 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
So ive got a new sleipnir and as part of fitting it and discussing with fellow corpmates the consesus was that it sucks.
I refuse to accept that so im approaching eve coomunity + forum trolls for your combine experiences. any pilot who often flies with sleipnir in pvp successfuly? any tipa or potential fits? or sleipnir really that bad?



How.... what...

Whaa?

The sleipnir is by FAR the best BC hull in the game.. It pretty much violates anything in a brawl.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Flurk Hellbron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-01-30 17:01:59 UTC
Doomhammar wrote:
generaly i was thonking at staying at range of point but not of neuts and using actie tank/asb but im not sure if its the right way to use sleipnor


What have you been drinking?
Sala Kyss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-01-30 17:21:50 UTC
The sleipnir is a point blank to mid range brawler. It can move amazingly fast, pumps out around 650-700 DPS, and has a tank that would make every other BC jealous

Auto's on it with ASB's and you can wreck pretty much everything. Obviously you can't out-snipe them, but put your sleip at point blank range on any of the t3 bc hulls and they're ******. Their tank vs sleip's tank, and their dps vs sleip's dps, the sleip will win every time

ASB's are amazing with the sleip's bonus, use them.
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