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Ubuntu OS and EvE
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Roidrage Weightlifter
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-01-29 05:54:39 UTC
quick question does it work with this operating system?
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-29 06:03:17 UTC
Officially no, however, some people have been able to run it under Wine.

CCP has no sense of humour.
Joneleth Rein
#3 - 2013-01-29 06:04:15 UTC
Yup. Or at least it's supposed to (you know how it goes with linux). It needs some work according to your setup

Stable is ubuntu 12.10 and wine
http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=25823

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Roidrage Weightlifter
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-01-29 06:05:06 UTC
ty much was wondering where that might be
Joneleth Rein
#5 - 2013-01-29 06:06:32 UTC
Ah. The forum eats the link. Copy & paste to get there.

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-01-29 06:20:41 UTC
Roidrage Weightlifter
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-01-29 06:29:39 UTC
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.
Shacheh
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-01-29 08:06:30 UTC
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.
Ai Shun
#9 - 2013-01-29 09:05:09 UTC
Shacheh wrote:
A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.


Whilst I don't see the point in wasting development effort on a Linux port (When emulation will do the job already) here are some questions to stimulate your mind:

(a) Why would the majority of EVE players be running Windows?
(b) Why do you have to waste your time with emulation for games?
(c) Do you see the inherent problem in your statement?

It is pretty much the equivalent of "They don't have bread? Then let them eat cake."
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-01-29 09:18:25 UTC
Shacheh wrote:
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.


This. If you know what you're doing with Linux, any version, you'll dual boot windows anyway.

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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#11 - 2013-01-29 09:29:42 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
This. If you know what you're doing with Linux, any version, you'll dual boot windows anyway.

You will?

I guess if you're not doing anything serious with your computer then booting to windows might be a minor inconvenience.

Nyan
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-01-29 09:39:20 UTC
Ai Shun wrote:
Shacheh wrote:
A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.


Whilst I don't see the point in wasting development effort on a Linux port (When emulation will do the job already) here are some questions to stimulate your mind:

(a) Why would the majority of EVE players be running Windows?

historical fact. Windows was made from start to:
- be able to do fast graphics (that's why we had LoL crashes in Win95 or such)
- be able to be installed and setup by anyone
- be compatible with MS DOS software (famous story about SimCity)

Linux began as server/developer system and started to expand to home PCs too late. Even in 1999-2000 it was not an easy task to find good, easy to install/setup and comparable with Windows in graphics and software.
Add here the fact that there is mostly few versions of Windows you should care of and there is 100500 Linux distributives "build on kernel version X.X.XX".

This made Windows the first and the one system for gamers (and game developers).

Ai Shun wrote:
(b) Why do you have to waste your time with emulation for games?

Binaries from Windows can't be used in Linux. Add here system libraries.
And result - if you want to run Windows-only software on Linux you need to emulate.

Ai Shun wrote:

(c) Do you see the inherent problem in your statement?

It is pretty much the equivalent of "They don't have bread? Then let them eat cake."

not really. this is just result of historical course of events and decisions.
Another example: military and economical dominance of USA in the todays World. You can blame anyone but all history lead to this.

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Joneleth Rein
#13 - 2013-01-29 09:50:08 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Shacheh wrote:
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.


This. If you know what you're doing with Linux, any version, you'll dual boot windows anyway.


TBH I don't think dual-booting is of much use these daysm aside from backup moments and hardcore needs. Usually there's a backup flash OS for that too. Virtualisation saved our multi-os butts.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-01-29 09:50:48 UTC
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


Wish people would understand what kind of nightmare it can be to develop a software for an ever changing non standard platform such as Linux is.
Shalia Ripper
#15 - 2013-01-29 09:53:10 UTC
Once upon a time there was a Linux EvE client, and it was passable.

Alas, we seemed to have regressed technologically.

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Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#16 - 2013-01-29 09:54:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalle Demos
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


Crappy, lol, oh right you are one of 'those'. Not all of us can wait for Linux to 'take over the world' which has been happening for hmm oh thats right FOREVER.

Remiel Pollard wrote:
Shacheh wrote:
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.


This. If you know what you're doing with Linux, any version, you'll dual boot windows anyway.


Which begs the question why even use Linux then Roll

"One day, maybe Linux / iOS will be on par with the libraries MS provides with windows, that day is certainly not today and if you think it is, it is likely you are a PHP programmer, if thats the case ROR -> that way"
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-01-29 10:09:48 UTC
Kalle Demos wrote:
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


Crappy, lol, oh right you are one of 'those'. Not all of us can wait for Linux to 'take over the world' which has been happening for hmm oh thats right FOREVER.

Remiel Pollard wrote:
Shacheh wrote:
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.


A vast majority uses Windows. I've got Linux and it's nifty for servers and programming.
Then I've got Windows for games so I don't have to waste my time with emulation.


This. If you know what you're doing with Linux, any version, you'll dual boot windows anyway.


Which begs the question why even use Linux then Roll

"One day, maybe Linux / iOS will be on par with the libraries MS provides with windows, that day is certainly not today and if you think it is, it is likely you are a PHP programmer, if thats the case ROR -> that way"


If all windows user would hold thier breath until it does, it would happen. Because we would all die.
LoanWolf Tivianne
Ace's And 8's
#18 - 2013-01-29 10:24:16 UTC
*nix by design is made to be "hard" thats why its "virus free" and thats why microsuck excelled

yea my spelling sucks so do you go back to work school teacher your not wanted here
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#19 - 2013-01-29 10:29:00 UTC
Windows is a very good launcher program for EVE and Adobe programs. I keep it on a separate SSD, I think it's better to have one OS for work and one for fun and games, keeps me more productive in linux :)

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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
#20 - 2013-01-29 12:24:35 UTC
Roidrage Weightlifter wrote:
wish ccp would get on the ball with this, not everyone uses crappy windows.
They are on the ball. They have a properly working Windows client.

Other people are on the ball in concerns to running Windows games under Linux.

People who want to play games, usually have a separate Windows installation. Those who don't, run WINE.

The potential playerbase for a native Linux client, who don't already run it via WINE or a separate Windows installation, is next to null.

They used to have both a Linux+WINE and OSX+Cedega distribution but the usage statistics showed that the Linux-version simply wasn't justifiable in terms of resources invested in supporting it.
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