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Smaller Alliances/Corps Need To Take Their Game Back

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#121 - 2013-01-22 05:13:54 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Going for the triple post: Test is fairly laid back tbh, if this person is being stomped on for activity it's because according to their killboard they haven't actually done anything. Ever. I just invited a three day old newbie to come join my cloak gang, sure he's going to die, but he's going to have fun. If you don't get involved you have nobody to blame but yourself for things sucking.

At least die in a T1 frigate sometime.


This person has died twice in a T1 frig, and killed exactly zero times. Meanwhile in Topgoon last month we let a seven day old new player lead our fleet of expensive ships around in Against all Anomalies space. He got my vagabond killed (Because I was the only one who followed his hilariously dumb orders) and everyone else peaced the **** out off grid when Elo undocked his munnin fleet.

I have never laughed so hard in my life, especially when he gave the order to "Orbit the stargate at various ranges to simulate an atom... hm yes that's exactly what I thought it would look like"


A vid of this with comms being played would be hilarious.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#122 - 2013-01-22 05:19:25 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
At least my bomber can warp away before the capitals can lock it Shocked

Don't worry they are your capitals, not the unsuspecting miners. In addition it is a clean kill, no accidental DD hitting anyone's carrier....

Oh I don't have to worry about that, it's impossible for a titan to doomsday my bomber Cool

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#123 - 2013-01-22 05:31:31 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
At least my bomber can warp away before the capitals can lock it Shocked

Don't worry they are your capitals, not the unsuspecting miners. In addition it is a clean kill, no accidental DD hitting anyone's carrier....

Oh I don't have to worry about that, it's impossible for a titan to doomsday my bomber Cool


Nothing is impossible, except maybe to get a carebear to pvp.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#124 - 2013-01-22 05:33:22 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
At least my bomber can warp away before the capitals can lock it Shocked

Don't worry they are your capitals, not the unsuspecting miners. In addition it is a clean kill, no accidental DD hitting anyone's carrier....

Oh I don't have to worry about that, it's impossible for a titan to doomsday my bomber Cool


Nothing is impossible, except maybe to get a carebear to pvp.

You can't damage a structure in reinforce (unless you had a missile in flight, I think), you can't DD subcaps or structures, and you musn't get away from CONCORD even if you are still somehow able.

Game mechanics are the best defense.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#125 - 2013-01-22 05:35:57 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
At least my bomber can warp away before the capitals can lock it Shocked

Don't worry they are your capitals, not the unsuspecting miners. In addition it is a clean kill, no accidental DD hitting anyone's carrier....

Oh I don't have to worry about that, it's impossible for a titan to doomsday my bomber Cool


Nothing is impossible, except maybe to get a carebear to pvp.

You can't damage a structure in reinforce (unless you had a missile in flight, I think), you can't DD subcaps or structures, and you musn't get away from CONCORD even if you are still somehow able.

Game mechanics are the best defense.


Well my dead lady, I bow to your expertise in the impossible. It appears that my knowledge gap is far worse than I thought. Maybe a four year break was not a good idea.
Celestarias
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#126 - 2013-01-28 23:22:12 UTC
Zagdul wrote:
Max Doobie wrote:
I expressed similar views a while back and it hasn't changed.

These huge Alliances/Coalitions with their ridiculous entry requirements are destroying this game.

It's harder to join an established Alliance in EVE than to obtain your Hazmat endorsement for your license IRL. Seriously. I've done both. I can compare.

I'm personally on my out way of this game. I've tried and tried but this Oligarchical system in EVE is annoying and lame. A FEW people control everything in this game and even the Devs cater to them. This game belongs to Montolio and MIttani and yes, even as a TEST member, I'm tired of it. Even in this so-called stupid ass "broship" between Goons and Test, I got tired of Test so I applied to Goons as they seem to have a laxer and more laid back atmosphere. They wouldn't take me. If it's that difficult for a member of Test to join Goonswarm, I can only imagine how hard it is for a new player.

I'm done being PC and doing Damage control for HBC/CFC. You guys are NOT helpful to new players. You are NOT inclusive. You can spew that BS to people on the outside, but not to me. Your corps consist of either ALTs of members, RL friends or people you goaded into trying EVE from your dumbass member sites (SA/Reddit). People like myself on the inside who dare to shake things up and have a mind of their own are shunned and forced out. I don't even bother posting on Test forums anymore because of how hated I am simply for not being an ass kisser. That's how it is in these large Alliances. They don't want PEOPLE. They want robots.

Smaller groups need to band together to take this game back. Nulli, NC etc. HBC/CFC are DESTROYING this game. this big blob crap is not sustainable. 75% of null being blue to each other is crap and ruins EVE.

Any of you HBC flunkies see this post and want to go tattle and get me booted, feel free, I just don't give a damn anymore. I am sick and damned TIRED of this crap. It's like I'm in f'kin High School again....I don't want to have to deal with some BS popularity contest just to be able to have fun in an Alliance.

You vets attack carebears day in and day out for "not realizing that EVE is a PVP game". Why don't you guys have anything to say to the folks who go and blue up 75% of null sec??? Isn't THAT negating the pvp aspect of eve???

I've said it before and I'll say it again: As a null seccer I feel SAFER in null sec than I do in HIGH or LOW sec.


I friend.

This is the culture in TEST you're experiencing. There's no community, just a bunch of nerds trying to one up each other and get an upvote.

Everyone trying to out-do the next person to become e-famous and get rep. This is why it's so divided amongst your leadership.

It's not the same in other alliances. It's just very ingrained into your culture.


You're terrible at this game and you should feel bad. Getting into FA is significantly more difficult than getting into Dreddit. The idea you have about TEST as a whole is rather convoluted, and that's perfectly okay, we're fine with shooting you over who even remembers why anymore.

Of course, there's always the ~elitewulfpax~ PVP out there for someone, but I hope you have 50mil SP all properly allocated or you're going to be denied because you too were once a newbro and thought mining would be an excellent income source.

Hench Tenet
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#127 - 2013-01-28 23:24:10 UTC
This max doobie fellow is essentially venting his frustration at being such an angry, bitter person onto eve-o. All he does is shitpost on our forums, try to steal scam targets, play internet tough guy ("I have my own truck"). He has no contribution whatsoever to the alliance. The fact he comes on here to sperg about us being nerds is too good.

He's not suited for the internet, let alone EVE, let alone TEST.
Praetor Abre-Kai
Pickling Rifles
#128 - 2013-01-28 23:26:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Praetor Abre-Kai
His TEST forum avatar is quite fitting for this thread

https://forum.pleaseignore.com/uploads/profile/photo-10275.jpg?_r=1355956251

Lets review a few things about Max, he's been in Dreddit since November and has posted about 55 times, almost exclusively in his own threads, he's almost never in fleets as you can see in his :kbstats:, almost zero activity. The reason no one likes him is he talks tough on the internet and is the literal definition of J4G. I'm going to assume you didn't make it into goons because they are much better at smelling a pubbie than we are.


Also here is a prime example of his **** posting,

Quote:
Alright so, I get a message from a higher-up a few days ago saying that someone contacted him complaining about me.

I'm cool with many of you. Been on ops, chatted it up and whatnot, shout out to you.

Some of you hate my ******* guts. I get that. Here's the thing:

Are we in ******* Grade school are some ****? I read somewhere that the average EVE players is 25+...

Why the **** are grown ass men running to other grown ass men tattling because they don't like my forum threads or whatever?

If I'm doing some **** that HURTS Test, I get that. Do what you need to do. However if you simply don't like the way I interact with YOU personally, dude man the **** up, grab your nuts and talk it out with me man to man. Don't ******* run to someone else complaining and ****, folks who have more pressing issues to deal with than some ******* bickering about dumb ****.

Mail me, convo me or better yet, if you're really ballsy, have me meet you on mumble to talk **** out and you get **** off of your chest. I can fully respect that. Either of those is better than running to a higher up, bitching and moaning about some random squabble and having them waste their ******* time messaging me about this dumb ****. They won't tell you to your face, but I'm sure even to them you look like a *****.

Not everyone will get along. That's life. I accept that. My personality doesn't mesh with everyone. I get that. That's true for everyone. However there are ways that ADULTS handle this issue, and there are ways CHILDREN handle this issue.

Approach me and talk it out, ignore me, or simply put me on block in game. Doing that won't be very effective however since I rarely even speak in channel but hey, it's an option.

As far as the forums, simply don't read my threads. Why some of you motherfuckers spend so much time reading the **** that someone you apparently can't stand is ******* beyond me. I mean if you're going to read my threads, don't then go bitching to directors about my forum posting....just don't read the ****!

Down-vote or w/e, I don't give a ****. I'm just saying some real ****. Nut the **** up and handle your issues like men. Real men don't go crying for mediators to handle their issues for them. What the **** do you do on the job? Do you go ***** to the manager every time a co-worker expresses an pinion you don't like or does something that annoys you? I guarantee you won't be there much longer. What do those of you who are fathers teach your sons? To go running for mommy and daddy every time that have a conflict at school? This explains why kids these days are such pussies shooting up schools and **** because people pick on them. My old timers know what I mean. You had an issue you either talked it out or duked it out with THAT GUY, and that was that. You manned the **** up. You handled your business. You didn't go ******* run to the principal when some dude called you names.

This isn't just in game, this is IRL as well. It's what's wrong with this country and this world. Men aren't ******* MEN anymore. Men these days gossip and backbite like fuckin women in hair salons and tanning beds. Men are wearing skinny jeans and lip gloss and have Justin Bieber posters on their walls. Men look to their wives and GFs to solve their problems and guide them then cry when their women go to real men. It's ******* insane man.

THOUSANDS of people in this Alliance...do you seriously expect to like all of them?

Bottom line if you have an issue with me, come to me. I don't bite unless bitten. I can be reasoned with. Two men can chat it up, vent their issues and come to an understanding without having to run to others for backup.

...and for FUCKS sake, don't be like the bitchass who ran to a director and see me talking in channel, give a snide remark insulting me, have me insult you back then run like a ***** to a director and play the victim. That's the EPITOME of "*****". I didn't even ******* ADDRESS this ****** and he talks **** then cries when I verbally ***** slapped his ass....the **** is THAT?? Who the **** does that??? I mean seriously??? YOU start ****, I respond, and you go complain??? Where are the ******* MEN these days dude?

...I'm typing this at a rest area...back to the road. To those who understand my perspective and aren't taking offense to some real talk, hats off to you. The only folks who would be insulted by this thread are the ones who do the **** I described.
Ki're Suahien
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2013-01-28 23:27:02 UTC
You made your OWN callout thread. I mean, jesus christ.

Your ridiculous ranting has nothing to do with smaller alliances. You're just upset that nobody likes you. ONE guy made a complaint about you. One. In response, you make a horrendous forum thread (both on our forums and here) that is long, out of focus, and for lack of better words a **** post.

The guy who made a complaint about you was straight with you; he told you why you annoyed him, no passive agressive bullshit behind it. Is he in the right? Not really, it's your game. Play it how you want to. But forgive the rest of the alliance for not defending someone who gives nothing back to the alliance. And it would have been all fine, but you decided to go apeshit about it.
Tu'yak Marowshay
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#130 - 2013-01-28 23:29:12 UTC
I Like Turtlez!
EI Digin
irc.zulusquad.org
#131 - 2013-01-28 23:31:35 UTC
As the only TEST member of the CFC/HBC Eve-o posting pact I would like to express my deepest and most sincere apologies for this thread and any transgressions that may result because of it.
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#132 - 2013-01-28 23:35:19 UTC
I don't get it.
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#133 - 2013-01-28 23:35:26 UTC
Why are you in test?
XXSketchxx
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
#134 - 2013-01-28 23:35:32 UTC
And who are you?
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#135 - 2013-01-28 23:41:31 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
When small groups band together they become the next BoB or NC.

What we need is for 0.0 to not just accommodate the very largest groups, but also smaller alliances. Of course the larger groups should have more space, just don't allow them to claim a quarter of the freaking universe and leave it empty and unused, when many smaller alliances would love to use it.


How, exactly, do you do that? I stealthed through Fountain once. Asked an IT member how much to rent a system. I think the answer was 2 bil per week, but no PI or POSes allowed.

Why would I do that?
Kalle Demos
Ironic Corp Name
#136 - 2013-01-28 23:45:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Kalle Demos
EI Digin wrote:
As the only TEST member of the CFC/HBC Eve-o posting pact I would like to express my deepest and most sincere apologies for this thread and any transgressions that may result because of it.


Go diet

@ Praetor Abre-Kai

Although his thread was OTT dramatic he does have a point, too many grown men in this game that act like kids in school, its not just TEST either, people cant even use the N, F, G, S or P word without someone crying. Saying that it is really annoying when TEST / Goons, you know the alliances that pride themselves on being laid back and not taking life / eve too seriously get emo over the slightest comment.

The only thing the OP lacked to get in Goons was ass-lickery lvl 5, a skill that would have got his nose a front row seat up Mittanis ass
Not Politically Correct
Doomheim
#137 - 2013-01-29 00:45:25 UTC
Kalle Demos wrote:
EI Digin wrote:
As the only TEST member of the CFC/HBC Eve-o posting pact I would like to express my deepest and most sincere apologies for this thread and any transgressions that may result because of it.


Go diet

@ Praetor Abre-Kai

Although his thread was OTT dramatic he does have a point, too many grown men in this game that act like kids in school, its not just TEST either, people cant even use the N, F, G, S or P word without someone crying. Saying that it is really annoying when TEST / Goons, you know the alliances that pride themselves on being laid back and not taking life / eve too seriously get emo over the slightest comment.

The only thing the OP lacked to get in Goons was ass-lickery lvl 5, a skill that would have got his nose a front row seat up Mittanis ass


It's MITTENS. MITTENS, dammit. He may be perma-banned, but he still doesn't like " The Mittani".
Call Rollard
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#138 - 2013-01-29 07:46:41 UTC
I have to say that I agree with this.

The only coalitions around now are CFC, HBC. Those two coalitions are the biggest and own half of the 0.0 sov... if I'm wrong its more than that.

0.0 EVE is now The Mittani's and Montolio's game.

Thing is, if you try to join a corp within Goonswarm or TEST, they will scam you. You have to be members of their forum to get into their alliance and not be scammed, which is stupid.

Also over half of TEST's characters are alts. 12000 members are not truly 12000 players, lots of their alts are scamming alts also.
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#139 - 2013-01-29 07:55:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Doobie
Call Rollard wrote:
I have to say that I agree with this.

The only coalitions around now are CFC, HBC. Those two coalitions are the biggest and own half of the 0.0 sov... if I'm wrong its more than that.

0.0 EVE is now The Mittani's and Montolio's game.

Thing is, if you try to join a corp within Goonswarm or TEST, they will scam you. You have to be members of their forum to get into their alliance and not be scammed, which is stupid.

Also over half of TEST's characters are alts. 12000 members are not truly 12000 players, lots of their alts are scamming alts also.



This is our fault. We allowed this to happen.

We can change it. I'm doing my part. I will be submitting an article to a certain well known EVE blog site to outline this in the near future.

What are you doing?

As you can see the Test Goonies have invaded this thread to do some damage control and attack me for almighty Montolio.

They are correct in perceiving me as threat and they are correct if they assume this score to settle between myself and Test has only just begun.

As for those who say this thread is "OTT drama"...of course it is. We all love drama give me a break. Political drama is just as much a part of EVE as Pew-Pew an you know it :)
Max Doobie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#140 - 2013-01-29 08:01:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Max Doobie
Ki're Suahien wrote:
You made your OWN callout thread. I mean, jesus christ.

Your ridiculous ranting has nothing to do with smaller alliances. You're just upset that nobody likes you. ONE guy made a complaint about you. One. In response, you make a horrendous forum thread (both on our forums and here) that is long, out of focus, and for lack of better words a **** post.

The guy who made a complaint about you was straight with you; he told you why you annoyed him, no passive agressive bullshit behind it. Is he in the right? Not really, it's your game. Play it how you want to. But forgive the rest of the alliance for not defending someone who gives nothing back to the alliance. And it would have been all fine, but you decided to go apeshit about it.



"You're just upset that nobody likes you".


Look at this folks. This guy is in his 20s yelling NAH-NANNY BOO BOO I POPULAR WIF DAH KEWL KIDZ AND UR NOT".

I've said this many times before, on EVE-o forums and Test forums; I have a mind of my own and that will never change. I will never follow the herd. And I will never apologize for that. I'll gladly take being booted from Test if it means I can remain myself.

I'm not a bad person. I've helped many people, including some of the people in Test that claim to dislike me, but the mob mentality is powerful among dullards. Max the Menace Doobie can say with pride that he didn't toss his dignity for the sake of fitting in with net-buddies in a spaceship game.

I was attacked, mocked and trolled since my first day posting on Test forums simply asking noob questions. When I defend myself I'm said to have a bad attitude and there it began going downhill from there ever since.