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juicer555

KRABfest

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#1 - 2013-01-27 13:46:04 UTC | Edited by: juicer555

For a while I've been thinking about trying to use the Raven in an new and inventive way that can make me some money whilst not being overly expensive to buy and fit.
Cruise Missiles gave me range and therefore I didn't need to fit a massive tank, but the dps wasn't amazing, and I really wanted to rip through anomalies to make as much money as I could, so I turned to Torpedoes. I haven't seen any torpedo fits for a Raven, I looked long and far on Battleclinic and I couldn't find a Raven Torp fit (or even a Raven fit that was really that decent), so I decided to make one of my own. It has a pretty decent tank, and has some awesome dps to really rip through stuff, but being relatively new to making my own ship fittings, I thought I'd post here and ask for some Constructive Criticism.
Edit: I should probably mention that this intended for ratting Blood Raiders.

The Fitting:
[Raven, Ratting]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150
Large Shield Extender II

Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I

Hammerhead II x5

This is what it's like with all Level Vs: http://i.imgur.com/6XASHLe.jpg

Anyway yeah, I'd be hugely thankful if people could take a look at the fit and tell me if it's any good, and link to anything that's similar that's known to work.

Have fun and fly safe
Juicer

Leo Lain

MuroBBS United

Likes received: 1

#2 - 2013-01-27 14:28:49 UTC

juicer555 wrote:

As far i know - without a target painter you will lose alot of torp dps even on BS rats.

juicer555

KRABfest

Likes received: 6

#3 - 2013-01-27 14:49:51 UTC

Leo Lain wrote:

juicer555 wrote:

As far i know - without a target painter you will lose alot of torp dps even on BS rats.

If I swap the Large Shield Extender for a Target Painter II, the fit is cap stable at 60% with a 421 dps tank, and an EHP of 81k.

Any other advice would be great

Eram Fidard

Doomheim

Likes received: 827

#4 - 2013-01-27 15:08:25 UTC | Edited by: Eram Fidard

you really do not need much tank for anoms, even that thing is overtanked.

Regular shield booster is fine, Anc is unnecessary, and as mentioned, you will DEFINITELY need a target painter to apply your DPS. Use damage-specific hardeners to make the most of your mids, omni tanking is not the way to go. It's also a good idea to make sure your explosion velocity is tweaked, with skills, and rigs (guided missile precision skill, and rigor, or flare rigs).

I would stick to forsaken hubs, since they have no frigs to worry about. Also, train for blasters, as blaster-ratting is (OP, FOTM, or totally ******* awesome, take your pick) right now.

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Sal Landry

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 271

#5 - 2013-01-27 18:10:45 UTC

Eram Fidard wrote:

You apparently didn't read the OP very well, since he in fact is fitting specific hardeners for Blood Raiders.

W0lf Crendraven

The Tuskers

The Tuskers Co.

Likes received: 504

#6 - 2013-01-27 18:24:31 UTC

My Raven was equipped with the following:

HIGH
06 x Cruise Missile Launcher I
01 x SMALL TRACTOR BEAM 1
01 x SALVAGER I

MEDIUM
04 x LARGE SHIELD EXTENDERS
01 x 'HYPHNOS' ECM
01 x MEDIUM SHIELD BOOSTER

LOW
01 x EMERGENCY DAMAGE CONTROL
01 x ARMOR KINETIC HARDENER I
01 x ARMOR THREMIC HARDENER I
02 x WARP CORE STABILIZER I

DRONES
02 x WARRIOR I DRONES
03 x HAMMERHEAD I DRONES

UPGRADES
01 x ROCKET FUEL CACHE PARTINTION I
01 x BAY LOADING ACCELERATOR I

Fusion Enterprises Ltd Pandemic Horde 442
Cage Man Fusion Enterprises Ltd Pandemic Horde Likes received: 442	#7 - 2013-01-27 18:44:17 UTC I have done this with both a raven and CNR, problem is you really need a 100mn MWD to make it work. It doesn't work so well since the AI changes as you can't fit it all with a decent tank, BCS, T2 torps and a MWD. Before I used a tengu to tank and shoot small stuff and a torp raven to kill big things, but it had very little tank.

Kery Nysell

Likes received: 139

#8 - 2013-01-28 03:29:20 UTC

Cardinal sin of shield tanking : mixing active (booster) and passive (extender) tank ...

Here's something I've thrown together in literally 2 minutes in EFT (all skills at 5) :

[Raven, Raven - Torps]

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Target Painter II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
100MN Microwarpdrive II

Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Torpedo Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Infiltrator II x5
Acolyte II x5

Not cap stable by a long shot (cap lasts 1 mins with MWD and Booster on), but you shouldn't boost constantly anyway, and the MWD is only there to get in torp range ... don't know if it works honestly, and I don't have the skills for T2 torps yet to try it myself.

It *should* kill BSs and BCs easily, Cruisers less so, and really struggle with Frigates.

...

XxRTEKxX

256th Shadow Wing

Phantom-Recon

Likes received: 155

#9 - 2013-01-28 04:59:26 UTC

Kery Nysell wrote:

Rigor rigs dont work on Torps. Unless they've changed that. The evelopedia page still says it only works on missiles. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Large_Warhead_Rigor_Catalyst_I

Tide Way Out Productions 3,040
Zhilia Mann Tide Way Out Productions Likes received: 3,040	#10 - 2013-01-28 05:06:12 UTC 1 XxRTEKxX wrote: Rigor rigs dont work on Torps. Unless they've changed that. The evelopedia page still says it only works on missiles. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Large_Warhead_Rigor_Catalyst_I They changed it. Rigors work on all missiles now, including torps, HAMs, and rockets.

Goldensaver

Maraque Enterprises

Just let it happen

Likes received: 434

#11 - 2013-01-28 06:28:36 UTC

Leo Lain wrote:

As far i know - without a target painter you will lose alot of torp dps even on BS rats.

Eram Fidard wrote:

you will DEFINITELY need a target painter to apply your DPS.

GMP changes so that they affect Torps fixed that issue for the most part. Now treat torps the same as you would cruises. Use a TP if you need one for cruises, but don't bother if you wouldn't for them.

To juicer:

I don't know what range BR rats typically orbit at, but max skills against them they'll probably still hover a bit outside of torp range. You might wanna pull the Invuln for a prop, if it'll fit. Getting it on will be a struggle, yes, but you'll need to be able to get into your torp range. I know that plenty of rats will hang out in the 40-60KM range. IFF(if and only if) BR rats hang back outside your range then I'd suggest cramming it on. If not, then forget I mentioned it.

Federal Navy Academy 2,629
Batelle Federal Navy Academy Likes received: 2,629	#12 - 2013-01-28 18:03:41 UTC my buddy had a golem that would 3-shot sanctum battleships with rage torps. Good RoF too, and this was before the recent missile adjustment. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.

State War Academy Caldari State 15
Kurron State War Academy Caldari State Likes received: 15	#13 - 2013-01-29 13:02:23 UTC 1 Better question - why on God's green and fuzzy earth would you rat any anom with a Raven at this point?

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MuroBBS United

Doomheim

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

The Tuskers

The Tuskers Co.

Fusion Enterprises Ltd

Pandemic Horde

256th Shadow Wing

Phantom-Recon

Tide Way Out Productions

Maraque Enterprises

Just let it happen

Federal Navy Academy

State War Academy

Caldari State