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New Eden Trade Group seeking loans (Full Collateral Available)

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Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-28 02:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Hello,

I'm the liaison between New Eden Trade Group and Market Discussion. Our past posts have not been positive, and my job is to do everything possible to prevent this from happening again.

AttentionIN AN EFFORT TO FOLLOW FORUM RULES ALL TROLLING WILL BE IGNOREDAttention

Lets get down to business.

AttentionAttentionCURRENTLY MANIPULATING THE PRICES OF AN ITEM IN HIGH SECURITY SPACE, NEED LOANS!!!AttentionAttention

We are currently seeking equity loans, collateral is available but is limited. As long as we have collateral available we will be requesting loans. Currently we are offering many useful items as collateral such as control towers, t3/faction ships, carriers, freighters, etc.

Ideal terms of loan:

-2% monthly return on principle
-3 week length, with the possibility of options to extend 2 weeks at the end of original term
-Collateral to be held by lender after negotiating value of collateral. Most items used as collateral are valued above 1 billion isk in Jita (ideally collateral is to be held by lender because of cancellation options mentioned below)

Cancellation option specifics:

-Lender has the right to cancel loan and recover isk at any time without penalty
-NETG also has the right to cancel loan and recover collateral at anytime, however if we cancel a loan we are obligated to pay all interest owed per terms of original loan agreement

AttentionOf course, all terms are negotiable.Attention

If interested please send me an Eve mail or contact me in game.

Thank you


QuestionFAQQuestion

QuestionRegarding established lenders: We currently are not interested in taking loans with any established lenders because their terms are not ideal for our current business operations. We feel it is not inappropriate for us to seek private lenders because we offer full collateral for isk.

QuestionRegarding business plan: We are manufacturers/traders, most isk is used to fund operations within highsec regions. Liquid isk is key to our strategies being successful. We do not like competition and will try to hold our cards as close to our chests as possible. That said, we understand transparency is crucial for a successful business relationship.

QuestionRegarding API: There will never be one released. The reasons for this are many, but the most prominent is protecting our market gems (items we trade with little competition) and protecting the identity of our manufacturing and logistics wing to avoid war decs. Also, we offer full collateral for lender's isk, and do not feel it is necessary.

QuestionRegarding screenshots: We will not take the time to release any screen shots. Reason being is screenshots can be edited effectively with Microsoft paint and are of no value.

QuestionRegarding NAV: I'm not going to bother posting numbers because there is no way to prove they are correct.


Please contact me if you have any further questions.

Thank you,


Ethan Freeman
Forum Liaison/Account Manager
New Eden Trade Group
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-01-28 02:26:51 UTC
Reserved once
Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-28 02:27:00 UTC
Reserved twice
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#4 - 2013-01-28 02:37:57 UTC
would like pledge 20b

@JerryTPepridge

Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-01-28 02:38:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
would like pledge 20b


In an effort to follow forum rules all sarcasm/trolling will be ignored.

Thank you
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#6 - 2013-01-28 02:54:33 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
would like pledge 20b


Sarcasm will be ignored

Thank you


others have pre-pledge 20b for me in their OP. kept me out of the thread.

i like how no-where in the OP mentions NAV.

you also mention the word collateral, however you do-not mention what it is.

as for api not being released, who's ever decision that was is an idiot, learn to trade in space.

all of the above are statements, i don't want/need answers.

@JerryTPepridge

Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#7 - 2013-01-28 02:54:36 UTC
This isn't going to go any better than the first time.

yes

Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-01-28 02:56:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
would like pledge 20b


Sarcasm will be ignored

Thank you


others have pre-pledge 20b for me in their OP. kept me out of the thread.

i like how no-where in the OP mentions NAV.

you also mention the word collateral, however you do-not mention what it is.

as for api not being released, who's ever decision that was is an idiot, learn to trade in space.

all of the above are statements, i don't want/need answers.



Please refer to original post.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#9 - 2013-01-28 03:00:36 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
would like pledge 20b


Sarcasm will be ignored

Thank you


others have pre-pledge 20b for me in their OP. kept me out of the thread.

i like how no-where in the OP mentions NAV.

you also mention the word collateral, however you do-not mention what it is.

as for api not being released, who's ever decision that was is an idiot, learn to trade in space.

all of the above are statements, i don't want/need answers.



Thanks for the post

Define NAV please

Thanks


My Reaction

yes

Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#10 - 2013-01-28 03:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Coffee
There are better and safer offers around.
Considering your reputation you'd better have 120% collateral and much heftier interest rate to get any investor.
Ai EM EICH OU

[b]DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy[/b]

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#11 - 2013-01-28 03:09:59 UTC
starting to see why only 1.5% is offered

@JerryTPepridge

Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-01-28 03:10:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
starting to see why only 1.5% is offered


Based on past offering in the market discussion forum, 2% monthly return on principle seems to be the average for fully secured loans. Please keep in mind that all terms are negotiable.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#13 - 2013-01-28 03:11:16 UTC
Claire Coffee wrote:
There are better and safer offers around.
Considering your reputation you'd better have 120% collateral and much heftier interest rate to get any investor.
Ai EM EICH OU


Claire I think we need to do buisness.

Please see our coffee weaponization research

yes

Claire Coffee
Coffee Inc
#14 - 2013-01-28 03:16:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Claire Coffee
Alex Grison wrote:

Claire I think we need to do buisness.

Please see our coffee weaponization research


Avoid licking staircases!
I think I'm going to train Empirez Controlz and make a Scam-Proof Coalition of Traders! Bear

EDIT: ...and accidentally crash the market Oops
EDIT2: ...and steal OPs gems! Twisted

[b]DRINK COFFEE Do stupid things Faster with More Energy[/b]

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#15 - 2013-01-28 03:20:23 UTC
NAV

1.5%, i commented as if you don't know what the above means, i struggle to see you guys breaking even on any trade.

next time, pre-pledge 20b.

@JerryTPepridge

Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-01-28 03:23:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
NAV

1.5%, i commented as if you don't know what the above means, i struggle to see you guys breaking even on any trade.

next time, pre-pledge 20b.


We have decided not to post a NAV for two reasons: One, there is no way for a player to verify whether or not the posted numbers are correct and two, we offer full collateral.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#17 - 2013-01-28 03:35:18 UTC
correct, what is the NAV, of your operation? i put a link there for you, as maybe it would have been easier to google it instead of asking here publically, exposing your knowledge, or lack thereof.

FYI: buy order value, is effected by the skill margin trading, its escrow you want, if your'e adding liquid isk into the equation.

why add it to a post? if you claim to have a footprint, numbers tend to help.

@JerryTPepridge

Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#18 - 2013-01-28 03:37:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alex Grison
Claire Coffee wrote:
Alex Grison wrote:

Claire I think we need to do buisness.

Please see our coffee weaponization research


Avoid licking staircases!
I think I'm going to train Empirez Controlz and make a Scam-Proof Coalition of Traders! Bear

EDIT: ...and accidentally crash the market Oops
EDIT2: ...and steal OPs gems! Twisted


http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=c7043&s=6

We are onto something

yes

Ethan Freeman
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-01-28 03:40:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Freeman
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
correct, what is the NAV, of your operation? i put a link there for you, as maybe it would have been easier to google it instead of asking here publically, exposing your knowledge, or lack thereof.

FYI: buy order value, is effected by the skill margin trading, its escrow you want, if your'e adding liquid isk into the equation.

why add it to a post? if you claim to have a footprint, numbers tend to help.


Edited due to redundant information, refer to "Regarding NAV" in original post.
Alex Grison
Grison Universal
#20 - 2013-01-28 03:46:01 UTC
Ethan Freeman wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
correct, what is the NAV, of your operation? i put a link there for you, as maybe it would have been easier to google it instead of asking here publically, exposing your knowledge, or lack thereof.

FYI: buy order value, is effected by the skill margin trading, its escrow you want, if your'e adding liquid isk into the equation.

why add it to a post? if you claim to have a footprint, numbers tend to help.


I intend to add it, thanks for the heads up. Any other advice is appreciated. We do have market experience, however our experience on market discussion forum is lacking.



tl;dr "we know how to trade some items in eve, but we know nothing about economics."

yes

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