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Tips for a newbie who is looking to join a player corporation?

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Erst Khan
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-26 19:39:58 UTC
So, I've been stumbling through the tutorial missions over the last few days, but decided that I liked the game enough to upgrade to a full account. Since I'm going to be around for at least a month, I started looking for a player corporation to join.

So far, the two types of organizations I have come across are those who will take anyone with a heartbeat (frankly, the heartbeat seemed to be optional), and "newbie friendly" corps who were anything but.

So, any protips or general advice to a new player who is looking for a player corporation? What are some common red flags? What should I be looking for?
Steven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-01-26 20:24:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Steven Koskanaiken
Reserved... Till I find NightCrawler's post

EDIT:

Found it..

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=16943
Merouk Baas
#3 - 2013-01-26 21:34:02 UTC
The two kinds of corps you've described are the ones you find if you only look briefly. The whole thing is similar to finding a job; you get offers from all the crappy ones that nobody wants to do, first, because they need people, because nobody wants to do that job.

Continue to do interviews / look for a job, and meanwhile try to succeed, a little bit, solo. Prove you can learn, can fit ships, can make a little bit of money, aren't dumb, don't desperately need a corp (just might be cool to join a good one). Use the interviews you get to see whether their officers are idiots, whether the corp is focused or "does everything", whether they're successful, etc. And actively apply to all the corps you find interesting, even if they say they don't recruit; try to find their forums, create an account, post there, get to know them.

If you still can't find anyone, join a school/helper corp - Eve University, etc. Being in their classes not only teaches you the game but also lets you get to know people.
Andres Talas
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-01-26 22:38:36 UTC
EvE Uni isnt a terrible choice, but mostly Id recommend hanging out on the public channels of corps and seeing if you're a good cultural fit :)
ISD Cyberdyne
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#5 - 2013-01-27 17:55:52 UTC
While being early on in EVE, many capsuleers find that diving into the sandbox player corporations to be a difficult to tedious task. Believe it or not, you can find a corp that is new player friendly in every venue in New Eden. It takes some digging, and in some cases it is easier to work into them through alternate routes:

Faction Warfare: There are many FW corporations looking for players, and a work around for some could be to simply join the NPC corporation for the Faction, be active in militia chat, join fleets, and get noticed. You will have an easy day getting into a good FW corp with a little effort there. Some will recruit straight up!

Wormholes: There are fewer wormhole groups that are newer player friendly, but they are out there. I recommend you do some solid training in the exploration tutorials, watch player videos, and master scanning. All wormhole corporations love adding a new scanner to the mix, so up your proficiency there and start looking for a corp you like.

Highsec: They are all over the place. This shouldn't be the most difficult community for you to find a new player friendly corporation. Just look around and find the ones you like, playing the gamestyle that interests you.

Lowsec: Sharing some similarities of locale with FW, the lowsec community has some new player friendly corporations. Going out there solo and taking fights to the lowsec community will sometimes net you offers, as many enjoy meeting players willing to fight, and are easily impressed if you provide them the opportunity. This is not always going to be the case, but I've had offers arise from pvp encounters in the past.

Nullsec: There are a number of new player friendly corporations within the nullsec community. The compromise here, is you may not get into the alliance you want right off the bat. You may settle for a lower tier alliance, and then get active, work your way up by participating in fleets and making friends. As you learn, become more proficient, you will begin to open doors in the direction of your choice alliance.

This is small coverage and there are endless options for you. Trial and Error will be the key here. Sometimes you will find a corporation and will find that it isn't for you, and you continue to press on until you find the one that fits you. Or, like some, you can always start your own corporation and build your own community. Possibilities are there.

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Kalim Dabo
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-01-27 19:43:11 UTC
I'd say don't over think it too much. Almost any player corp is going to be more fun than an NPC corp in one way or another. People often mention RvB and Eve University here, and both of those are fine places to start. If nothing else they will offer fun activities and people to hang out with until you get a feel for what you want to do in the game.

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Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
#7 - 2013-01-27 23:45:24 UTC
EvE Uni always looks good on your resume, too.

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-28 00:04:09 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
EvE Uni always looks good on your resume, too.


That's debate able some actually flat out refuse you. Though that shouldn't deter you.

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Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-01-28 01:42:22 UTC
If I see Eve Uni on someone's corp history I tend to assume that they're cowardly carebears with little to no initiative.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#10 - 2013-01-28 03:52:09 UTC
As shown above i can only speak on behalf of my self.
If i see someone who has been in EVE uni or they are applying shortly after leaving i always give them an extra point.
We have had many people who have been there and in general i dont have any complaints about them at all. The training they recive have been basic obviusly but more then enough for them to stand on their own two legs and dont need "hand holding" for everything they want to do.
I also approve of it for the simple reason that if they have been in EVE uni for a while its not likely the person will go inactive right away as many new players do, but actually have put time into their research and take the game seriusly.

Please note im not saying that i dont like it when people dont join them, a person can get just as much knowledge somewere else.

I can also see Monks reasoning behind saying that they dont have initiative to do something on their own. You get used to having a lot of people around that will tell you what to do and when to do it, but this is the kind of player that will either play for a month or two and get bored and quit, or join one of the larger alliances were there is plenty of operations and fleets with people who do tell them what to do.
But blaming that attitude entirely on EVE uni is a bit unfair. If a person does not wish to be in a situation were they feel they cant make a decision on their own, no corp or alliance can change that. They will either just leave the corp, or disobay orders until they get kicked (atleast im guessing EVE uni would kick someone for this,i have never been a member personally).

So short version.. EVE uni is a good place to go if your new and have no idea what your doing or what you want to do. A month or so there will allow you to explore options, get used to listening to superiors (weather or not you follow them is entirely up to you like in any corp) and for the more shy players it allows you to sit back and listen without feeling that people stare at you and think "The new guy never talks! He must be a spy!" Lol

Im sure it has its bad sides (like apparently its a long wait to get in), but i have yet to have a recruit complain about their time in EVE uni or seeming unhappy with how things are done.

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-01-28 04:40:29 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
If I see Eve Uni on someone's corp history I tend to assume that they're cowardly carebears with little to no initiative.


I tried to join Eve Uni for a teaching position... also tried CVA to change my ways

Both said no, CVA said I was KOS because I had apparently been an ass in the past P

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-01-28 08:20:05 UTC
Erst Khan wrote:
So, I've been stumbling through the tutorial missions over the last few days, but decided that I liked the game enough to upgrade to a full account. Since I'm going to be around for at least a month, I started looking for a player corporation to join.

So far, the two types of organizations I have come across are those who will take anyone with a heartbeat (frankly, the heartbeat seemed to be optional), and "newbie friendly" corps who were anything but.

So, any protips or general advice to a new player who is looking for a player corporation? What are some common red flags? What should I be looking for?


Shop around. Don't commit yourself to a corp just because they seem decent after chatting for awhile. any corp can sound pretty good but the truth is most of them are bad, especially in highsec. Find people that you enjoy hanging out with.

If a corp says they do everything, they often do nothing. Newbie friendly means they will take you in but no one will want to help you out. Some of the best corps out there have a singular purpose & stick to it.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-01-28 08:21:09 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
Psychotic Monk wrote:
If I see Eve Uni on someone's corp history I tend to assume that they're cowardly carebears with little to no initiative.


I tried to join Eve Uni for a teaching position... also tried CVA to change my ways

Both said no, CVA said I was KOS because I had apparently been an ass in the past P


To be fair, it doesn't take much to get on CVA's KOS list. Farting in an elevator will do it.

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Sin Pew
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-01-28 10:00:15 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Erst Khan wrote:
So, I've been stumbling through the tutorial missions over the last few days, but decided that I liked the game enough to upgrade to a full account. Since I'm going to be around for at least a month, I started looking for a player corporation to join.

So far, the two types of organizations I have come across are those who will take anyone with a heartbeat (frankly, the heartbeat seemed to be optional), and "newbie friendly" corps who were anything but.

So, any protips or general advice to a new player who is looking for a player corporation? What are some common red flags? What should I be looking for?


Shop around. Don't commit yourself to a corp just because they seem decent after chatting for awhile. any corp can sound pretty good but the truth is most of them are bad, especially in highsec. Find people that you enjoy hanging out with.

If a corp says they do everything, they often do nothing. Newbie friendly means they will take you in but no one will want to help you out. Some of the best corps out there have a singular purpose & stick to it.
Pretty much that, but to give a little more details:

  • If the corp claims to operate in low, null or w-space, check out their killboard on eve-kill or battleclinic, to make sure it matches their sayings and they're all doing it, not just one guy in the band who lives in low but everyone else does missions in high.
  • While you're at it, check if they have corp-kills, there can be the odd test fights between corpmates, but if they have many kills of people no longer in their corp, it's a bad sign.
  • Don't pay to join a corp.
  • If they ask you to pack all your stuff and contract it to them for freighting to null, look somewhere else.
  • Don't join corps created by other newbs, you won't learn together it's a lie, prefer corps with some vets-inside.
  • If they have a public channel, don't hesitate to hang around for a while and have a taste of the times they're active, joining a EU corp when you're NZ is quite pointless.
There's probably more to look for, but that's a start.
Don't give up just because you joined a corp and it didn't work well enough, it can take a while to find the right corp, much like finding a job.

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