Out of Pod Experience

Welcome to the real world.

China is the model for the future.

We've been fighting it with everything except the ammo box so far.

it's not cold, it's actually a psychological phenomenon related to group/crowd mentality.

It's called Bystander effect and it's been studied thoroughly.

It's sad to see happen, and yes I like to think (probably as you do) that if I were there I'd jump into action, but don't immediately presume all the people you see there are just mean bastards.

We've evolved to react this way in group settings and it can be hard to act against our own nature, even when logic and everything else tells us "THATS DUMB!" when we watch it as an outside observer.

It the entire reasoning behind, when training to react to emergencies, you don't just yell "call 911!!!" or "quick grab a rope!" or whatever.... you pick a person out, point to them and address them directly to entice them to act.

OP should change the title to "Tragic social psychological phenomenon"

This post has been heavily edited.

I took out a part about passing cars because it's a side track that gets nit picky, and came back again after Alia threw her tantrum for it being suggested that wikipedia is not a perfect source and that she could be wrong.




Except... not...




People walking or biking as individuals down a dark road between shops and seeing someone freshly run over that no one is attending to, do not rest under the umbrella of any 'social' excuse because there is no one there for them to think has the responsibility. There's no crowd there. There's no group of people.

Not wanting to be 'the one' to go help, or not understanding you are 'the one' who needs to help, or even not believing a person needs help in the first palce, is not the same as driving by a screaming dying toddler alone in the street and walking past it by yourself, which is exactly what happens on the video. Not a group. Not traffic. Single people walking or biking alone with no one else around reacting. That's just called APATHY.

You trust Wikipedia too much. The examples on that page are terrible. Look up the other examples like Kitty, where she was not seen to be being harmed, only chased, and no person or group of people saw the entire thing as she moved around a populated area turning corners, stopping and going, and being more seriously attacked in a more secluded place. Even then people called the police! That's not bystander effect because no one even saw the event that bystander effect is supposed to explain those people not reacting to. It's a terrible example, just like this video from China.

You don't chase every ******* who runs in public until you find out for sure they're not being killed in the next twenty four hours, but you stop EVERY TIME for a screaming toddler laying in a pool of their own blood crying alone in the dark.

You should try reading the link i posted and you quoted. You might learn something. I know it's a lot of words, but apparently you like typing them, hopefully you like reading them too.

You obviously do not know what you're talking about and what is worse, you think you do.

If you think it's a one size fits all condition (which you apparently do) you'd be wrong. It's much more complicated than that.

well now you might as well be yelling at a mirror

Try this:

Since everyone is doing exactly the same thing (nothing), they all conclude from the inaction of others that help is not needed. This is an example of pluralistic ignorance or social proof. The other major obstacle to intervention is known as diffusion of responsibility. This occurs when observers all assume that someone else is going to intervene and so each individual feels less responsible and refrains from doing anything

See? I threw you a bone, how nice of me.

You don't need people actively assisting or appearing to assist or anywhere near the victim for this to occur. In fact you only need minimal (or even the illusion of) other bystanders for people to inexplicably walk away (or stand and gawk) at a situation that... if they were watching it as an outside observer, they would be screaming "HELP YOU IDIOT!".

I'm not being knee-jerk. You really do not know what you're talking about.
And no I don't want to "go psychology" with you. I can see that would take me to a very crazy, unstable and uneducated place.

dude I don't even think you watched the video

there are other people in every single shot. and that's only including what you can see in the scope of the camera

I can't even bring myself to watch the links.
What you have posted in response is enough.
My mind won't quit screaming WHAT THE ****?!? over and over again.
It's one thing to be nasty online, to say hurtful things, etc, something I'm very guilty of.
Another thing entirely to not do anything while another human, a child no less, dies.

As for you people, arguing with each other about who is "right" about some stupid analysis of the situation. You're all idiots. Just shut up already.

Its a bi effect of our current social system. It has happened in the west as well.

Too many people crowded together and forced to compete with each other for shrinking wages. Basically competing to be slaves to the system that has no goal but to perpetuate itself.

People in general need to wake up and take a good long look at the values they have, at what is really important in life. And just in the last decade or so the human population has grown by 1 billion. There has never been so many people on Earth at the same time before, we are bound to see some effects of that unless we change our ways.

Yup, saw a massive car accident happen a few months ago when someone ran a red light at about 50mph and slammed into the side of a car going through the intersection. I called 911 and stayed 1 block away from the wrecks so as to not have any involvement in anything while waiting for the police. The second I walked up to the scene I could be held legally responsible for anyone hurt and I'm not about to take that chance.