EVE General Discussion

First!
Read my bio.

A PLEX is not worth stealing?

And the point made by many people who don't want to change PLEX is that everyone in Eve should know better.

No, the problem with this discussion, and really these forums in general, is that people arguing against a thing are doing so for personal reasons. At first I thought everyone here didn't understand basic economics because they ignored or misinterpreted those arguments. The truth is that people have an excellent understanding of economics; they are fighting not for what is right or wrong or best for Eve as whole, rather they are fighting for their own wallets,

Making PLEX safe for people to buy will make them less expensive in terms of ISK to buy.

This will create a loss for people holding PLEX in their hangers.

And that is a lot of the resistance to this change. It has nothing to do with what is best for the game.

Maybe the answer is to keep PLEX in game. And only in game. No ads for PLEX outside Eve, not on the website, the forum, or anywhere. Bury the option somewhere on the accounts page where only veteran pilots will find it. For anyone else wanting to legally purchase in game currency, noobs, kids, and their grandparents, the only option they should find is one that puts the ISK directly in their wallet.

I think that would work well enough as a protection for new players and still allow PLEX to be in game.

DISCLOSURE: I do not hold any PLEX (That I know of; haven't logged in for anything but skill training for a couple of months now).

EVE has a very specific, very focused direction. This is communicated in marketing for the game. The articles that surface in the gaming press cover a very specific aspect of that focus and usually exults in how horrid EVE players are to other EVE players. Ask any gamer out there about EVE and if they have heard about it the things you will hear back will cover Goonswarm, scamming / theft and the steep learning curve.

I dislike the idea of interventionist policies that seek to protect the stupid against themselves. Put a massive tax on McDonalds because some people eat it for three meals a day. Ban this, ban that because somebody is incapable of making a decision for themselves.

Keep that rot out of the game, please. PLEX is fine. The game is fine. You don't change it because another person failed to do even cursory research. That person being the kids mother who decided that he / she is allowed to play a game that embodies the concepts of EVE Online and supported them in that hobby financially without being there as a parent to either play with them or research the game first and arm her child with the tools to protect themselves.

I heard there is one pretty far up in the ranks of Goonswarm. From what I know of lawyers, that explains a lot.

In days mostly gone by traveling shows would set up booths and tents and rides and charge admission to locals. Along with these performances and games came a host of other less wholesome activities. Pick pockets, cons, card sharps, thieves, women of ill repute, substance abuse, games of chance for money, and others. As the locals wandered along the midway they would loose some money here and there, and eventually go home when they had no more.

Someone mugging locals outside the gate would be dealt with, not out of fair-mindedness or in an attempt to make the midway a safe place. They would be dealt with because locals that get mugged wont come back. While locals that lost in a rigged game or perhaps “lost” their wallet will go home, get some more money and come back again.

Dealing with that kind of behavior did not make the midway any less of an adventure, it did not make it a safe place to be or child friendly. The great draw of the karnival was not actually the lights and rides, rather the thrill of it, the exposure to something dark.

C.F.

Presumably you placed a bounty on the scammer then and dealt with him as an EVE vet should? No, wait. You came to the forums to try and get the game changed. My mistake.

Restraining orders placed on you by every local pre-school.



No, they get rich. They buy nice cars and drive them to nice resteraunts where they dine with women the likes of which you can only dream of as you sit furiously rocking to and fro on the small wooden playhorse that is your life.

Send me 50 Million isk and i'll teach you how to get this life.

Yeah, but logic isn't his strong point.