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Where can I get some good headphones

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#21 - 2013-01-22 15:43:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate
Just get a decent set of Sennheisers, Audio Technica .... etc and a Mod Mic, they are out of stock but hopefully they will get some soon.
Kenneth O'Hara
Sebiestor Tribe
#22 - 2013-01-22 16:05:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Kenneth O'Hara
Rain6639 wrote:
let the headphone people make the headphones, and the microphone people make the microphones

for headphones I use: sony mdr V6. they're studio monitors, better than -anything- you can find that has a mic attached (corsair, razr, blah gaming headsets) people who "know" use sony mdr-v6. Howard Stern, for example. I like them so much, I bought two (after my first mdr-v6 of 10 years broke). if you want more bass, mdr-v600's have bigger drivers and more bass.

for a mic I use: samson G-Trak popular, solid studio mic and it's excellent for teamspeak.

mdr-v6 mdr-v6 mdr-v6 mdr-v6 mdr-v6 mdr-v6 mdr-v6 mdr-v6

those HMD-280's? vs mdr-V6:

HMD-280
max input power .5W
frequency response: 8 Hz - 25000 Hz
impedence: 64 ohm

mdr-V6
max input power 1W ( ! )
frequency response: 5 Hz - 30000 Hz ( ! )
impedence: 63 ohm ( ! )

I tried to find bose numbers for that qc15, but... good luck. (they're going to suck)

I can already point out 1 flaw with the Sony headphones. Where the headband meets the plastic just above the ear pieces(where the adjusters are) on both sides is a structure weak point. They will break after about a year or so. Usually just outside of the warranty range. I've had a pair of skullcandys and Sonys with the same style of band and both of them break in the same places. They may have better stats on paper if they can only stay together and not fall apart.

I've noticed a lot of people have been suggesting Sennheiser so I might just get a decent pair of those.

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Corsair Cartel
#23 - 2013-01-22 16:14:10 UTC
Cowboy Nuggets wrote:
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:
This is along the lines of what I am looking for but it does not have a mic.


This one has a mic http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA13X0CU6619

Damn. I need that.*


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Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-01-22 19:55:57 UTC
Works for me

I think

Hell stuff around my ears
Kinda a mic
Toilet nearby - over there somewhere

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#25 - 2013-01-22 23:20:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
mdr-v6's last a long time. I took one of my v6's to Iraq, and I can't tell them apart.

about the pic: i know. one of my reasons for joining the military was for the image... the same reason some people buy sennheisers Twisted
Zindela
Aegeonix Systems
#26 - 2013-01-23 06:20:51 UTC
I'm gonna jump on the Sennheiser bandwagon with the PC-350

I've had mine for 2-3 years, they still sound great, with a pretty long cord.

Hell, not even just for gaming, Sennheisers pretty much always will be some of the best sounding headphones you can buy. Don't buy any crap by TurtleBeach/Razr/ other big name gaming company. There, you pay for the name. and gaming advertisements. With Sennheisers, you pay for the Sennheiser name. Which is quite worth it.
Rain6638
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2013-01-23 09:33:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6638
I'm ready to do 2 things tomorrow: buy a set of sennheisers to see what they're like, then return them (most likely)... and send you (OP) my second set of mdr-v6's with my amp so you can see for yourself what they're like. maybe.

I've tried beats, bose qc15 (or was it 13)... bose earbuds are great, i'll give them that. the corsair mic combo, the logitech wireless mic combo...

but i'm just going to tell myself it doesn't matter to me if you don't choose mdr-v6's, and the important thing is I have mine.

I'm going back to cranking my electronica to 11, with zero distortion.

Commissar Kate wrote:
Just get a decent set of Sennheisers, Audio Technica .... etc and a Mod Mic, they are out of stock but hopefully they will get some soon.


that is an awesome idea

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2013-01-24 03:22:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
I picked up a set of the sennheiser HD 280's, and they're hooked into my amp next to the sony mdr-v6's. I've gone through my playlist of favorite songs, switching between the headphones at technical beats and significant bass...

the HD 280's distort both the highs and lows, and exaggerate bass (bass bass bass all the time. why?). it sounds like I have water stuck in my ears... they're muddy, and the bass is numbing. I thought maybe it's because they have too much air space--the cups are larger than the mdr-v6--so i pressed them closer to my head, but that only isolated the "droning" quality of the drivers.

mdr-v6's place you "closer" to the sound, are more accurate, and still vibrate your ears when the bass is meant to. I'm doing other things while the songs play, and when I check which headphones I have on, it's mdr-v6's. I have the HD 280's on for the three or four seconds to discover 'yep that song sucks too.' then I go back to the mdr-v6's and they stay on.

the mdr-v6's make the HD 280's sound -really- bad. on paper, the comparison is unfair because of the specs... but they're the same price.

i found headphones that have similar specs as the sony mdr-v6, and it is the Shure SRH940 professional reference headphones for $280-$300ish.

same max input power of 1 Watt,
40mm drivers,
frequency range 5 Hz - 30 kHz,
closed circumaural.

what strikes me is the difference in specs. lower impedence than the mdr-v6's (42 ohms vs the mdr-v6's 63 ohms) but LESS sensitivity (100 dB vs the mdr-v6's 106 dB ... sennheiser HD280 is 102 dB) meaning the Shure is somehow less efficient than the mdr-V6... bigger diameter wire in the coils but too many turns or something. and they're still $300

Sony created something amazing with the mdr-v6 in 1985, and there's a reason they're still sold 27, 28 years later.

I hate that I care so much sometimes, but I spend 12 or more hours a day with my headphones on, so this is kind of important to me. I should get a PCIe extender ribbon so I can put my sound card back in. part of me wants to send you my extra set of mdr-v6's and this HD280 that I'm going to return, just so you... know... what I'm talking about, but I don't care -that- much.

I'm headed out to return the sennheiser HD280, but I'm going to stop at Sam Ash first, to try out the SHURE SRH940 on my amp and iphone. I recommend this EQ app (i've tried them all).

//STOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING. I just got back from Sam Ash and ended up trying Pioneer HDJ-1500 ... alt Pioneer link

...they're everything good about the Sony mdr-v6, but with three times the power. zero distortion even when you turn it up to 11, but I can only handle 75% volume. like... oh. my. god. becky.

range 5 Hz to 30 kHz <--same as mdr-v6
impedence 32 ohm <--HALF the mdr-v6
max power 3,500 mW <--THREE and a HALF times more than the mdr-v6
sensitivity 108 dB <---higher than mdr-v6, with half the impedence... means a LOUD driver

gets better sensitivity per Watt than the mdr-v6, with a bigger 50mm driver

my ear drums are still paralyzed from making -extra- sure these were the best choice. they sound better than the $350 Pioneer HDJ-2000. the HDJ-1500's compared to the HDJ-2000's were similar in clarity and muddiness when I compared the mdr-v6's to the sennheiser 280's

the only thing I would like in these pioneer HDJ-1500's is contact against the sides of my head (instead of pressing on my ears). maybe there's a mod pad I can get for them. the cord could also be -slightly- longer, or have more play in the coil of it.

I wasn't looking for new headphones, OP, but I bought the Pioneer HDJ-1500, along with a 3-year in-store replacement warranty. you can find them for $150 on amazon, but it's my local music store and they're always willing to open boxes and let me try stuff.. so i paid their retail (it's also where I purchased my G-Trak condenser mic).

it does everything better. amazing. and it comes with a huge, supple pleather bag.

thanks, OP. these are the headphones I didn't know I wanted. i don't know how they retail for $179.

//i'm going back to try the Sennheiser HD 25-1 II tomorrow. I can't remember if it's one of the four or five $200-$400 headphones I tried today (the ones in the locked glass display behind the counter). I just don't remember. if they're better than the Pioneer HDJ-1500's i'll get the senns instead. i'm a bit skeptical about the .2 Watt rating and how the 70 ohm impedence and 16 Hz - 22000 Hz frequency response is supposed to retail for $250. the 5oz weight (w/o cable, compared to the 10oz of the Pioneers w/o cable) kinda rules out the possibility of a monster driver hidden in a featherweight frame.

but screw my pride, and my opinion, and this long post; i'll get what sounds better.
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#29 - 2013-01-25 04:26:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
you're making a mistake with the sennheiser 280's or HD 25's. I've tried everything sub-$400 in the last two days.

$109: Sony mdr-v6
$179: Pioneer HDJ-1500 (and for those extra $70, you're getting three times the headphone as the Sonys, and bigger drivers--50mm)

if i didn't already have the G-Trak condenser, I would get a sub-$10 cheapie desk mic until their version 3 comes out.

HDJ-1500 and HDJ-2000 pads are interchangeable, and the only thing I liked about the more expensive 2000's were the pads. you can buy HDJ-2000 pads to put on the 1500's, but I'd like to fashion something to make it completely off-the-ears, maybe with solid plastic cutouts from my local home improvement store and a dremel. make the HDJ-1500's circumaural so they're not pressing on the ears, and they're perfect.

also: released in December 2012, the HDJ-1500 is available in white. HDJ-1500-W I kinda wish I knew about them.

a bonus is the feel of the HDJ-1500's and the machined metal body. they give it that "if it's heavy, it's expensive" appeal
Haegir
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-01-25 18:51:06 UTC
I use these
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#31 - 2013-01-25 18:53:46 UTC
things i learned in this thread:

1. rain loves headphones.
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#32 - 2013-01-25 18:59:52 UTC
One of the few good things about destroying my hearing with loud music when i was younger is all headphones are pretty much the same to me.

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Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#33 - 2013-01-25 21:27:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
things i learned in this thread:

1. rain loves headphones.


hah. thank you Cool. headphones are just... one of those things that price doesn't = performance. brand, even

//finally got that extender ribbon and plugged in my sound card. the dedicated headphone out drives the Pioneers directly, and I don't need the amp anymore. I also have more control over the sound. (latest drivers released a week ago!)

I am very very grateful for this thread. It prompted me to make a huge improvement in my audio life. Thank you Kenneth O'Hara.

Bane Necran wrote:
One of the few good things about destroying my hearing with loud music when i was younger is all headphones are pretty much the same to me.


didn't need my hearing anyway
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2013-01-26 10:58:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
I was curious, so I decided to check what headphones Tiesto is caught wearing during his sets. simple $90 headphones. Stanton DJ Pro 2000... he seems to use them consistently.

he teamed up with Harman and AKG to make his own headphone line... which were released September of 2012. the most expensive model the AKG K267 retails for $349

identical numbers as the Pioneer HDJ-1500 except

another

+7 dB

on top of what the pioneers can do. I really want to hear them.

//apparently, the AKG 550's murder too. +5 dB over Tiesto's K267.
so i guess if you're looking to break $300 and just -have- to spend money... AKG

sennheiser is too mainstream, anyway
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#35 - 2013-01-29 01:03:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
i couldn't help myself. HDJ-1500-W (in white)

get replacement pads for the HDJ-2000. they fit, and everyone sells them as "HDJ-2000 pads"

they turn the headphone from on-the-ear to over the ear (circumaural)

it's sublime. now i gotta order the pads in white. black will do, for now... (I can't find white pads -anywhere- on the net. looks like they're grey on the white HDJ-2000's stock and it'll have to be aftermarket. zomo maybe I'm curious whether their HD-1200 pads will fit)

if you're in los angeles, this DJ store on santa monica blvd keeps replacement pads in stock, and they just had an order of white 1500's arrive. they also carry the 2000's in white, but the 1500's are a better value.

he quoted me 199.00 but I asked if he would match the more common 179.00 retail price. he checked his cost and said yes. and pay cash, let him know you're paying cash when you ask for the 179.00 price. comes out to $199.something after tax.

he overcharged me for the pads, though, so I think it evened out. $250 for pads and headphones out-the-door (cash)
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#36 - 2013-01-29 02:00:26 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
sennheiser is too mainstream, anyway


Nah, Beats, Skullcandy and Monster are too mainstream. Lol


I'll use almost anything else but those brands and "gaming headsets".
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#37 - 2013-01-29 02:34:23 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Rain6639 wrote:
sennheiser is too mainstream, anyway


Nah, Beats, Skullcandy and Monster are too mainstream. Lol


I'll use almost anything else but those brands and "gaming headsets".


hahaha you're going to point to crap headphones to set sennheisers apart... ok, but they're still played out. enough people want something "different" and buy sennheisers, that people know what they are now. that makes them mainstream..

next is Grado, I can feel it
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2013-02-02 16:51:33 UTC
UI sounds are amazing with bass

not just the fighting ones, but the clicky in-station ones too
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