Ships & Modules

If EVE was real life or if for say reality was eve im shoure you would see tons of frankin ships and hevialy modified ships. you would probly see some ships with diferant componates of diferant ships like a drake with the back end of a hurricain for example or maby a malstrom with the body of a typhoon. the point being that if eve was reality people would be doing theese things like making a completly custome ship from scratch from hull design to wepon systems. people would be taking and swaping componats of diferant ships to make one big badass super mutant ship that was pirfactly rounded to whatever they would be doing. i dont expect for ccp to go into this much detail with the ships but to see some of theese concepts come into the game would be awsome any suport for the ideas or sugjestions would be awsome

the idea would be to make it so players can build their own ships like putting the low slots of a typhoon on a rokh as in interchanging ship componants to essincially make the best ship you can for whatever you would do what would be bad about that

Is there generally some correlation between really bad ideas and **** poor spelling and grammar?

From what I am reading the OP is asking for Tech3 Battle ships. Something with a 8/8/8 slot layout with as many turrets missles and other bonuses as desired. It is a very poor idea in terms of keeping ships unique, which is (arguably) what the topic started out with as a graphic styling / customizing thread.

1/10 But only because it did make me comment.

If things were balanced now, we wouldn't be undergoing teiricide. Never mind tracking nerfs, HML nerf, missile buff, newbie ship revamp, mining ship overhaul, etc.. If things were balanced now, we wouldn't have the Machariel.

I think the OP is simply asking for a more open ended and flexible ship system. We already have modules that tweak ship parameters, T3 subsystems, and rigs. How far of a jump is to be able to tweak slots, bonii, speed, etc.? The further you deviate from the "standard" hull, the more expensive it becomes and/or the more flaws the hull suffers from. Industrialists could get in on the action with custom BPOs, "sub-standard" hulls that are cheaper to make for mass combat, etc..

Would it lead to potential min-maxing? Yes, but then we already have FotM ships and fittings that are min-maxed (e.g. 100MN Tengu.) Would it be difficult to balance? Yes, but look at how long CCP has been tweaking ships and systems for balance. Would it be fun? Yes. In fact, it would be a heck of a lot more fun than waiting for CCP to "fix" sub-standard hulls and/or nerf OP ships/fits.

Giving everybody the exact ship they want is a big no-no. Having everybody make sacrifices to get a ship that does most (or at least some) of what they want is the name of the game.

You want to tweak slots, bonii, speed, etc.? Get a T3 ship. That's exactly what they are for. Right now, they are cruiser-size only. Maybe there will be frigate and battleship sizes later.

Trolls and poor spelling aside, it's actually a very common idea that's taken as granted for quite a while after the best expansion in all of Eve.

Unfortunately, no extension came to be, despite overwhelming demand. To date, half of t3 subs are still broken, t3s still limited to cruisers, hitting the business end of the nerf bat, and wh space long forgotten. Meanwhile, CCP works on pointless things like space barbies and PS3 shooters. It's a sad state of affair.

It was a better, more optimistic era. Ppl imagined whole lines of t3s and endless possibilities from whs. You guys wouldn't understand.

Issue 1: The intuition that more flexibility yields more diversity is rarely true in practice. May I direct your attention to Diablo II vs. Diablo III. D2 has the more flexible character build system in some ways, including the ability to allocate attribute points as you like (in D3 you can't; it's predetermined by your class). D2 characters, regardless of class, spend their attribute points on their primary stat for attack power, subtract a middling amount of Strength for whatever armor you'll want to carry, and then the rest goes into Vitality. There is practically no diversity to attribute allocation in D2 if you want an optimal build.

Issue 2: Neither flexibility or diversity are an inherent good. You have to look at their effect on the gameplay experience at all stages. The limitations on hulls and roles exist to serve a lot of masters, not just the decision-making that goes into fitting. For example, when you see an Incursus on scan, you can make some inferences about what it can do. If any hull can do any role, then the hull name on scan is a formality that conveys nothing useful. Repetiveness ensues.

I'm not saying it can't be done, just that it is a much larger project than you're imagining. I'm also saying that I play EVE like it's Diablo III, except with fewer alts.

Edit: I've gone to lo-sec now, so I now play EVE like it's a combination of Grand Theft Auto and Diablo III.

I would like to see a modular frigate, and have it carry the skill loss if it gets blown up like a T3 does.

I am sure most of us would and while I am at it, I love the new Thorax..... now if I could just get it in a Projectile gun toting model, maybe when they redo the pirate factions?

While I like your enthusiasm, I would want this to be curtailed within reason.
AKA no engine trail changes, and you only have the paint options your race has, so caldari could have the black silver camo and the red black jobs like the nighthawk/widow, not go all crazy and paint them green and black camo like the Kronos etc.

This would be to help keep the races distinct and easily identifiable when they are not little flashing red Xs or purple Xs