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Smoke like a man, die like a man

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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-01-23 22:22:27 UTC
Haha, take that feministsTwisted

Also best opening line in a news article I can remember P

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2013-01-23 22:24:36 UTC
Equal rights also means women don't get first dibbs on the lifeboats too.
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-01-23 22:27:02 UTC
Considering they haven't figured out the whole immortality thing, I will continue to abuse my body to the best of my ability.
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#4 - 2013-01-23 22:35:12 UTC
They have the right to **** on our donuts as well.

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-01-23 23:51:13 UTC
Xinivrae wrote:
Considering they haven't figured out the whole immortality thing, I will continue to abuse my body to the best of my ability.


Well...clinical immortality may not be as unachievable as it may seem.
From a biochemical point of view, there is no reason why cellular aging and death should be biological necessity. And there are even lifeforms that already have longevity / immortality like some jellyfishes or prokaryotes.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#6 - 2013-01-24 00:01:51 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Well...clinical immortality may not be as unachievable as it may seem.


They always keep the debate about stem cells focused on fetuses, to make it a media circus that goes nowhere, but in actuality even adults produce stem cells that can be harvested and used to repair their own bodies.

You can bet it's already being taken advantage of behind closed doors, they just don't want to share. Sad

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Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-01-24 00:07:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Bane Necran wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Well...clinical immortality may not be as unachievable as it may seem.


They always keep the debate about stem cells focused on fetuses, to make it a media circus that goes nowhere, but in actuality even adults produce stem cells that can be harvested and used to repair their own bodies.

You can bet it's already being taken advantage of behind closed doors, they just don't want to share. Sad


Yeah, my (paranoid) thoughts exactly.
The concept of immortality already exists in nature, so it cannot be too hard to reproduce it in humans.
But would the corporation that developed this serum ever go into the public with it...or would they just recruit gifted and rich individuals that swear fealty to them and then slowly infiltrate every major government, bank and corporation...?
Sounds a bit like the White Wolf Vampire thing, no?

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-01-24 01:02:17 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Well...clinical immortality may not be as unachievable as it may seem.


They always keep the debate about stem cells focused on fetuses, to make it a media circus that goes nowhere, but in actuality even adults produce stem cells that can be harvested and used to repair their own bodies.

You can bet it's already being taken advantage of behind closed doors, they just don't want to share. Sad


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Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#9 - 2013-01-24 04:06:35 UTC
i'm not sure immortaility is a good idea at all, tbh. lol
Xinivrae
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-01-24 05:07:18 UTC
I swear I posted this so, if I end up double posting, I'mma be a little upset.

Anyway the concept of immortality is something I used to talk about a lot with friends (because we were going through that phase of "Oh god, we're going to die some day and that's terrifying").

Like 6 or so years ago during my senior year, we watched a documentary about scientists efforts to extend our average lifespan. I don't remember the title, so you'll have to trust me, it was a thing. We've actually already been doing a great job and have more than doubled our life expectancy, and it's only getting better. These scientists predicted that within our life time we would figure out the whole self renewing thing necran described as well as eliminate the cause of the toxin build up our bodies have, effectively "curing" aging. Now if they're correct, then it's possible we could see people living well into their hundreds. Several hundreds.

Now seeking immortality itself isn't really an obscure thing, there are lots of groups dedicated to making that happen, and already apply methods such as specific diets and hormone therapies to try and slow down aging, and they have many more ideas that either aren't yet possible or aren't perfected enough for humans to undergo.

If such a thing is devised and offered, my circle of friends and I, the bright young know-it-alls that we were and still are, decided that a fair approach to this would be the sterilization of a person who wants that, in an attempt to stem the whole overpopulation thing. Then again it's entirely possible and even probable to say that such a thing would be horribly abused and we'd all be left worse of for it.

But meh, haven't though about it much since then. If anything the acceptance of my own mortality kicked my butt into high gear when it comes to accomplishing what I want in life, and maybe even defined it. In my opinion there's just so much to do and not enough time.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#11 - 2013-01-24 07:21:45 UTC
Stopping the aging process before we have a decent way out of this rock is a surefire way to BadStuff™.
Oh, well, I guess hunger could be a pretty decent population control mechanism too.
Rain6639
Team Evil
#12 - 2013-01-24 08:26:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6639
Quote:
"Smoke like a man, die like a man."


so you're telling me women who smoke... will stop visiting their parents and die in their fifties saddled with a mortgage payment their ex-husband won in the settlement, and child support payments for children the ex-husband had with other women?

women should definitely quit smoking.
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-24 12:35:31 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
Quote:
"Smoke like a man, die like a man."


so you're telling me women who smoke... will stop visiting their parents and die in their fifties saddled with a mortgage payment their ex-husband won in the settlement, and child support payments for children the ex-husband had with other women?

women should definitely quit smoking.


That is not the description of a man, but a big wuss.

Still baffles me why people still bother to smoke. Even when I was young it was very obvious it was a pretty bad idea to smoke.
Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-24 15:35:10 UTC
Funny how one of the keys to longevity is to fit a good buffer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomere
Bane Necran
Appono Astos
#15 - 2013-01-24 17:27:05 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
But would the corporation that developed this serum ever go into the public with it...or would they just recruit gifted and rich individuals that swear fealty to them and then slowly infiltrate every major government, bank and corporation...?
Sounds a bit like the White Wolf Vampire thing, no?


A lot of people consider people dying to be great, because to them all the destruction to the planet was done by your average citizen and not greedy corporations. They also think there's not enough food for more people, when it's been shown we throw out half of the food we produce.

All nonsense and projection, but the alleged overpopulation problem frequently mentioned by billionaires is the most common reason presented why poor people shouldn't live longer.

"In the void is virtue, and no evil. Wisdom has existence, principle has existence, the Way has existence, spirit is nothingness." ~Miyamoto Musashi

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#16 - 2013-01-24 18:22:41 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-01-24 21:09:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sidus Isaacs wrote:
Rain6639 wrote:
Quote:
"Smoke like a man, die like a man."


so you're telling me women who smoke... will stop visiting their parents and die in their fifties saddled with a mortgage payment their ex-husband won in the settlement, and child support payments for children the ex-husband had with other women?

women should definitely quit smoking.


That is not the description of a man, but a big wuss.

Still baffles me why people still bother to smoke. Even when I was young it was very obvious it was a pretty bad idea to smoke.


Well, I smoked in the Marines... and dipped, and chewed... (and on one occasion dipped and smoked at the same time) in an environment where you have a real probability of dying in the blink of an eye the long term effects of smoking are kind of irrelevant

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Kirjava
Lothian Enterprises
#18 - 2013-01-25 00:07:36 UTC
Bane Necran wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Well...clinical immortality may not be as unachievable as it may seem.


They always keep the debate about stem cells focused on fetuses, to make it a media circus that goes nowhere, but in actuality even adults produce stem cells that can be harvested and used to repair their own bodies.

You can bet it's already being taken advantage of behind closed doors, they just don't want to share. Sad


You mean a media circus in the US.
Here in Europe we kinda kept at it.... we're getting pretty good at it.

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#19 - 2013-01-25 00:28:57 UTC


Poop always derails.


Kirjava wrote:
Bane Necran wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Well...clinical immortality may not be as unachievable as it may seem.


They always keep the debate about stem cells focused on fetuses, to make it a media circus that goes nowhere, but in actuality even adults produce stem cells that can be harvested and used to repair their own bodies.

You can bet it's already being taken advantage of behind closed doors, they just don't want to share. Sad


You mean a media circus in the US.
Here in Europe we kinda kept at it.... we're getting pretty good at it.



Thank you. Its good to see somebody with some sense rather than archaic values and blind beliefs.

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Hrothgar Nilsson
#20 - 2013-01-25 05:50:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrothgar Nilsson
Xinivrae wrote:
We've actually already been doing a great job and have more than doubled our life expectancy, and it's only getting better.

Actually, what we've mostly done is eliminate excess childhood and infant mortality. A person living in medieval times who lived to see adulthood could expect to see 70.

Extraordinarily high childhood/infant mortality is what skewed 'life expectancy' in the past. The average of 1 and 70 is 35, but that doesn't mean the typical person died at around age 35.

Rather, people mostly died between the ages of 1 and 10, or 65 to 75, but not so much in between.
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