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Hamish Grayson
#101 - 2013-01-18 13:33:16 UTC
Solarienne wrote:
Of course the universe is bigger than one campaign, base or engagement zone, but for a soldier on the front line, the universe can be as small as the path between his body and the barrel of a gun at certain moments.


How true my friend, ones duty should be his universe - you too are more than welcome to stop by the College or Tea House to discuss this further.
Wei Soikutsu
Doomheim
#102 - 2013-01-18 13:35:42 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Are you familiar with the Heiian College or the Tea House? I'd rather take this discussion there.

I shall seek them out.
Solarienne
Hrimdraugar
#103 - 2013-01-18 14:28:46 UTC
Hamish Grayson wrote:
Solarienne wrote:
Of course the universe is bigger than one campaign, base or engagement zone, but for a soldier on the front line, the universe can be as small as the path between his body and the barrel of a gun at certain moments.


How true my friend, ones duty should be his universe - you too are more than welcome to stop by the College or Tea House to discuss this further.



I'll attempt to make time for it.

PY-RE Combat Pilot
Sar'tek
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#104 - 2013-01-23 16:34:49 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
Please consider re-enlisting, even if only part time. Your State needs you.

Perhaps I will do just that. I am scheduled to return to Empire space shortly anyways...perhaps once the bulk of my belongings return to Caldari territory I will seriously consider your suggestion.
Tashoken Tonkimara
Doomheim
#105 - 2013-01-24 11:56:34 UTC
Good day gentlemen and ladies,

At 11:00 on Thursday, January 24th, corporate security personnel tasked with facility protection of Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel were directly assaulted and attacked by an unknown contingent who have armed themselves with improvised weapons in direct violation of Kaalakiota corporate law.

Home Guard security forces have established a perimeter around the facility, which is now considered under a state of riot. A cease and desist order was issued at 11:15, with non-compliance of corporate directives to be considered in effect as of 11:45. All Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel within the facility in question are now considered to be in failure of compliance with Kaalakiota corporation law and the directives of the State Loyalty Tribunal and Caldari Providence Directorate.

Wiyrkomi Corporation has been notified of this breach outlined above, with future actions pending.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#106 - 2013-01-24 12:20:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Tashoken Tonkimara wrote:
Good day gentlemen and ladies,

At 11:00 on Thursday, January 24th, corporate security personnel tasked with facility protection of Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel were directly assaulted and attacked by an unknown contingent who have armed themselves with improvised weapons in direct violation of Kaalakiota corporate law.

Home Guard security forces have established a perimeter around the facility, which is now considered under a state of riot. A cease and desist order was issued at 11:15, with non-compliance of corporate directives to be considered in effect as of 11:45. All Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel within the facility in question are now considered to be in failure of compliance with Kaalakiota corporation law and the directives of the State Loyalty Tribunal and Caldari Providence Directorate.

Wiyrkomi Corporation has been notified of this breach outlined above, with future actions pending.


This is public notification of having received above memorandum, 1145 Hours, 24 January YC 115.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Commissar For Internal Affairs (Temp.)
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard

Kurilaivonen|Concern
Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#107 - 2013-01-24 12:30:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Noboru Tahvo Toivonen
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
Tashoken Tonkimara wrote:
Good day gentlemen and ladies,

At 11:00 on Thursday, January 24th, corporate security personnel tasked with facility protection of Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel were directly assaulted and attacked by an unknown contingent who have armed themselves with improvised weapons in direct violation of Kaalakiota corporate law.

Home Guard security forces have established a perimeter around the facility, which is now considered under a state of riot. A cease and desist order was issued at 11:15, with non-compliance of corporate directives to be considered in effect as of 11:45. All Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel within the facility in question are now considered to be in failure of compliance with Kaalakiota corporation law and the directives of the State Loyalty Tribunal and Caldari Providence Directorate.

Wiyrkomi Corporation has been notified of this breach outlined above, with future actions pending.


This is public notification of having received above memorandum, 1145 Hours, YC 115.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Commissar For Internal Affairs (Temp.)
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard


On behalf of our majority stakeholder, The Outcast Dead offer their services to our friends in WHG, as well as the rightful authorities of the Kaalakiota corporation, should armed intervention be required. This service is offered Pro Bono with all anticipated costs covered should our assistance be necessary. It is our belief that intervention on our part would preserve the lives of Home Guard personnel and bring non-compliant irregulars to heel in short order. Kaalakiota sovereignty and law is, of course, respected and we defer to your expressed needs in this matter.

We express our wishes for a swift, decisive end to the on going unrest.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#108 - 2013-01-24 13:04:47 UTC
Unknown contingent? Aren't there personnel records and access point ID lists to be referred to? Issuing a CnD is of course quite expected, but without actually knowing who you're dealing with in the first place it seems a bit of a priority mishap.

Either way, this sounds like rather unacceptable dissent. Hope the issue is decisively dealt with quickly. Internal instability in WHG doesn't serve any of us well, least of all the State.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#109 - 2013-01-24 13:26:16 UTC
Confirmation.
Memo received at 1200 Hours, 24 January YC 115.

The Wiyrkomi Honor Guard acknowledges the State of Riot and hopes for a swift resolution of this insurgency and puts its trust into local Home Guard forces to do undertake the necessary steps to guarantee the safety of WHG employees that are still inside the facility.

Furthermore the Wiyrkomi Honor Guard recognizes the offer brought forward by The Outcast Dead with gratitude, but is not in a position to make a decision about outside involvement on the aspect of a secure and undisclosed facility as this lies entirely in the hands of Kaalakiota Corporation's judgement.

Desiderya Kyiokkinen
Eskeitan Reijokkan
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.
Anslo
Scope Works
#110 - 2013-01-24 15:22:36 UTC
Anyone want popcorn?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#111 - 2013-01-24 19:52:57 UTC
Obviously this is horrifying - I can't believe such orchestrated disobedience could arise from within the ranks of those I considered my kirjuun.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#112 - 2013-01-24 20:42:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
This is indeed quite disturbing.

Ishuk-Raata wishes WHG the best in their peacekeeping operations. Order must be maintained.

Katrina Oniseki
Alijula Satalama
Doomheim
#113 - 2013-01-25 13:58:36 UTC
Effective 13:00 today, Friday, January 25, upon having received notification of and confirmed non-compliance of the directives of the State Loyalty Tribunal and Caldari Providence Directorate, the corporate citizenship and employment contracts of all 534 Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel involved in acts of rioting within the corporate territory of Kaalakiota Corporation have been terminated in accordance with Section 5.8a of the Standard Wiyrkomi Employee Agreement.

No legal protections will be afforded by Wiyrkomi Corporation to its former citizens.

Wiyrkomi Corporation extends its wishes to Kaalakiota Corporation and the Home Guard for an effective and decisive resolution to any and all threats to its corporate security.
Anslo
Scope Works
#114 - 2013-01-25 14:09:52 UTC
So instead of listening to why they're rioting in the first place, you'd rather just mow 'em down. Brilliant.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox
#115 - 2013-01-25 14:15:20 UTC
Anslo wrote:
So instead of listening to why they're rioting in the first place, you'd rather just mow 'em down. Brilliant.


I don't believe they reported that anyone has been killed, sir. At least not directly.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#116 - 2013-01-25 14:16:38 UTC
The proper response is to stop the riot. Sometimes that is best done by listening to the complaints. Other times it is to stop it by any means necessary.

There are methods in Caldari society to make concerns known. You handle these issues behind closed doors, making requests, presenting arguments.

These people decided that the best way to go about doing things was to rebel. The result is predictable.

If you start giving into disloyalty and violent action with talk and a peaceful settling of demands, you encourage further violent action in the future. This is the incorrect solution.
Anslo
Scope Works
#117 - 2013-01-25 14:28:34 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
The proper response is to stop the riot. Sometimes that is best done by listening to the complaints. Other times it is to stop it by any means necessary.

There are methods in Caldari society to make concerns known. You handle these issues behind closed doors, making requests, presenting arguments.

These people decided that the best way to go about doing things was to rebel. The result is predictable.

If you start giving into disloyalty and violent action with talk and a peaceful settling of demands, you encourage further violent action in the future. This is the incorrect solution.


But what drove them to do that in the first place? You don't just wake up one day and say, "Hey! I want to start a riot!"

There are reasons behind it. No one wants to start an orgy of death and destruction just for the hell of it. It's always to send a message and make demands. I'll admit that those demands may have been voiced behind closed doors, but there's no proof that they did indeed happen.

To top that off, how do we know their demands were ridiculous enough to not be worth meeting?? Maybe all they wanted was a simple agreement to better their living standards, safer working environment, or something. Hell maybe they just wanted to leave and move to another Empire peacefully and weren't allowed to because of contractual clauses deeming them as property and peasants as opposed to real people.

Sorry if I jump to conclusions here, but we're only seeing one side of the story. Just blindly accepting it as "the right thing to do" makes me sick. Whatever happened to questioning things? Whatever happened to looking at the evidence? We have one side of a story and we're just nodding our heads around like a Charisoco being scratched behind the ears before being injected with an experimental vaccine.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#118 - 2013-01-25 14:35:29 UTC
Alijula Satalama wrote:
Effective 13:00 today, Friday, January 25, upon having received notification of and confirmed non-compliance of the directives of the State Loyalty Tribunal and Caldari Providence Directorate, the corporate citizenship and employment contracts of all 534 Wiyrkomi Honor Guard personnel involved in acts of rioting within the corporate territory of Kaalakiota Corporation have been terminated in accordance with Section 5.8a of the Standard Wiyrkomi Employee Agreement.

No legal protections will be afforded by Wiyrkomi Corporation to its former citizens.

Wiyrkomi Corporation extends its wishes to Kaalakiota Corporation and the Home Guard for an effective and decisive resolution to any and all threats to its corporate security.


This is public notification of having received above memorandum 1305 Hours, 25 January, YC 115.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Commissar For Internal Affairs (Temp.)
Wiyrkomi Honor Guard


Kurilaivonen|Concern
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#119 - 2013-01-25 14:39:03 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
The proper response is to stop the riot. Sometimes that is best done by listening to the complaints. Other times it is to stop it by any means necessary.

There are methods in Caldari society to make concerns known. You handle these issues behind closed doors, making requests, presenting arguments.

These people decided that the best way to go about doing things was to rebel. The result is predictable.

If you start giving into disloyalty and violent action with talk and a peaceful settling of demands, you encourage further violent action in the future. This is the incorrect solution.


But what drove them to do that in the first place? You don't just wake up one day and say, "Hey! I want to start a riot!"

There are reasons behind it. No one wants to start an orgy of death and destruction just for the hell of it. It's always to send a message and make demands. I'll admit that those demands may have been voiced behind closed doors, but there's no proof that they did indeed happen.

To top that off, how do we know their demands were ridiculous enough to not be worth meeting?? Maybe all they wanted was a simple agreement to better their living standards, safer working environment, or something. Hell maybe they just wanted to leave and move to another Empire peacefully and weren't allowed to because of contractual clauses deeming them as property and peasants as opposed to real people.

Sorry if I jump to conclusions here, but we're only seeing one side of the story. Just blindly accepting it as "the right thing to do" makes me sick. Whatever happened to questioning things? Whatever happened to looking at the evidence? We have one side of a story and we're just nodding our heads around like a Charisoco being scratched behind the ears before being injected with an experimental vaccine.


This is going to be difficult to grasp for a Gallente, but there is only ever one side of a story.

The story is the narrative written by the successful.
Anslo
Scope Works
#120 - 2013-01-25 14:43:42 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
This is going to be difficult to grasp for a Gallente, but there is only ever one side of a story.

The story is the narrative written by the successful.


I know the old saying, history is written by the victor. But this isn't exactly an age of technological ignorance. We have the capability to see past smoke screens and contractual jargon. To simply feed into the narrative provided by the "successful" party and not look at it from the other party's side is ignorant and negligent. You don't go into a war without knowing the enemy's reasoning and beliefs, or a debate without knowing the other party's stance and reason for said stance.

If you choose to ignore the other side and go alone with the "oh well they won so their story only counts" idea, then that's your problem.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]