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some advice for Amarr space missions?
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Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-01-21 23:35:42 UTC
yeah, well, i have basic knowledge in dealing with rats in the other empires. but i've never done missions in Amarr space, mostly because of the blood raiders. they're the most annoying rats after the guristas. so i wanted some advice since i have my main base of operations there, and want to star doing some missions when not mining.

notice that i only got the basic skills for combat, except for drones which is a bit more advanced.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-22 00:51:32 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
yeah, well, i have basic knowledge in dealing with rats in the other empires. but i've never done missions in Amarr space, mostly because of the blood raiders. they're the most annoying rats after the guristas. so i wanted some advice since i have my main base of operations there, and want to star doing some missions when not mining.

notice that i only got the basic skills for combat, except for drones which is a bit more advanced.


Don't fly turret boat. The new and improved npc td pwns turretboats. Other than that, not much different from other empires.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-01-22 01:37:04 UTC
sabre906 wrote:
Silivar Karkun wrote:
yeah, well, i have basic knowledge in dealing with rats in the other empires. but i've never done missions in Amarr space, mostly because of the blood raiders. they're the most annoying rats after the guristas. so i wanted some advice since i have my main base of operations there, and want to star doing some missions when not mining.

notice that i only got the basic skills for combat, except for drones which is a bit more advanced.


Don't fly turret boat. The new and improved npc td pwns turretboats. Other than that, not much different from other empires.


what do you mean as turret boat?, well im amarr so i just know laser turrets for now, and, well drones. my worry is about the neuts and vampires.
Rengerel en Distel
#4 - 2013-01-22 03:20:11 UTC
Easiest thing then would be not to do the missions with NOS.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Talon Reese
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-22 12:58:16 UTC
"turret boat" = ship that uses turrets. He means use missles because the TD is quite annoying. Depending on mission level staying at long range seems to work fine also, but that isn't always practical.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-22 15:36:51 UTC
Talon Reese wrote:
"turret boat" = ship that uses turrets. He means use missles because the TD is quite annoying. Depending on mission level staying at long range seems to work fine also, but that isn't always practical.


It's beyond "annoying," the worse missions are undoable at all. Your optimal and falloff combined is reduced to 5km by the non-stacking-penalized npc td, and once you get that close, your guns won't track even BS sized rats because your tracking is reduced to nil. Neut was never the issue, as your cap isn't drained instantly, you still have the ability to kill the rat, where the new and improved td will render your guns useless instantly.
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-01-22 18:15:16 UTC
so, i should cross train to caldari?, cause after retribution i dont see any amarr ship specialized in missiles (T1 wise)
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#8 - 2013-01-22 18:59:21 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
so, i should cross train to caldari?, cause after retribution i dont see any amarr ship specialized in missiles (T1 wise)


Right now the best suggestion is to not run Amarr missions from what I've read in the forums they are TD broken. Sorry but for now U R screwed. 
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-01-22 19:50:39 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
so, i should cross train to caldari?, cause after retribution i dont see any amarr ship specialized in missiles (T1 wise)

If you really have to run in Amarr space, then either that or use sniper fit in missions that feature a lot of TDs.
Of all missions my agent provides only Sansha Blockade requires something like that, other missions are trivial.

Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Silivar Karkun
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-01-22 21:10:18 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Silivar Karkun wrote:
so, i should cross train to caldari?, cause after retribution i dont see any amarr ship specialized in missiles (T1 wise)

If you really have to run in Amarr space, then either that or use sniper fit in missions that feature a lot of TDs.
Of all missions my agent provides only Sansha Blockade requires something like that, other missions are trivial.


i dont have, but its my base of operations right now, i mine there, dont want to move just in order to run missions
Funky Lazers
Funk Freakers
#11 - 2013-01-22 21:21:36 UTC
Silivar Karkun wrote:
so, i should cross train to caldari?


No for sure. TDs are going to affect missiles next expansion or even sooner.

Whatever.
XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
#12 - 2013-01-22 21:23:42 UTC
OP, how far away is your closest lvl4 agent that isnt an Amarr agent? One of my homes is in Amarr space, but I cant even do lvl2 missions with Amarr because my standings suck. However, i have 5.0 with Gallente and Minmatarr. I found a lvl 4 Minmatar agent where i live. So i just do missions from that agent when im there.

Find any lvl 4 agent near you that isnt an Amarrian agent. Use a shuttle to get there and have your mission ship there. Just because you are in Amarr doesnt mean you can only mission for Amarr. Also skill up your diplomacy skill as high as you can. It will help your faction standings. Its nice having a 5.0 standing with a faction and not being limited to one corp for missions.
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-22 21:36:27 UTC
XxRTEKxX wrote:
OP, how far away is your closest lvl4 agent that isnt an Amarr agent? One of my homes is in Amarr space, but I cant even do lvl2 missions with Amarr because my standings suck. However, i have 5.0 with Gallente and Minmatarr. I found a lvl 4 Minmatar agent where i live. So i just do missions from that agent when im there.

Find any lvl 4 agent near you that isnt an Amarrian agent. Use a shuttle to get there and have your mission ship there. Just because you are in Amarr doesnt mean you can only mission for Amarr. Also skill up your diplomacy skill as high as you can. It will help your faction standings. Its nice having a 5.0 standing with a faction and not being limited to one corp for missions.


Connections, not diplomacy.
XxRTEKxX
256th Shadow Wing
#14 - 2013-01-22 22:17:14 UTC
Yeah Connections. Diplomacy helps the negative ones. If it wasnt for that skill my Amarr would be -5.