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PI: Using Launchpad instead of Storage?

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#1 - 2013-01-11 03:25:06 UTC
I started on PI a few days ago, and am trying to make a setup that requires minimal input. Currently I want to try to set up all the factories at once and always producing the same thing, and then shifting Extrators around. That means many of the factories will often have no material to process, but it seems to me to be the lazy man's method.

However, my current method involves having a central Storage Facility that everything is routed to and from, and then delaying the building of a Launchpad until I've trained Command Centers from 4 to 5 (trying to volume-reduce my goods as much as possible by turning them into P3). Or if my Storage Facility is filled up before then, then I'll temporarily shut down all Extractor Heads and build the Launchpad, and then just not do any more extraction until I can upgrade my Command Center to 5.

A few minute ago, though, it occured to me that it might be possible to ditch the Storage Facility entire, and instead have a central Launchpad that everything is routed to and from. It requires the same Powergrip as a Storage, so I essentially save 700 PG on not needing a Launchpad. CPU isn't a problem, I have plenty of that. I do miss out on 17% storage space, since the Launchpad can take 10k m3 while the Storage can take 12k m3.

But it seems like it might be worth it. Is it? Or is there some catch, some deficinecy in a Launchpad, relative to a Storage, that I'm not aware of?
Rivendark
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-11 03:47:34 UTC
All of my planets have a central launchpad that everything runs through...is good plan
Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#3 - 2013-01-11 04:35:54 UTC
So there is no catch to using a Launchpad instead of a Storage?

And no good reason to build a Storage, except if you intend to build and take down a Launchad periodically, e.g. have a permanent Storage, and then maybe 2-3 times a month you shut down your Extractor Heads and build a temporary Launchpad, and launch your **** into space, and then you remove the Launchpad again and resume extracting?
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#4 - 2013-01-11 04:39:44 UTC
Nope. Pretty much everyone does this.

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#5 - 2013-01-11 05:05:48 UTC
Thanks for the help, guys!
Invictra Atreides
Toward the Terra
#6 - 2013-01-11 07:58:51 UTC
You build Storages when you need 10 of them. See the big CPU requirements of Launchpads.

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Iosue
League of Gentlemen
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-01-11 15:21:03 UTC
Invictra Atreides wrote:
You build Storages when you need 10 of them. See the big CPU requirements of Launchpads.


this.

CPU is the only catch, but rarely is it an issue. Powergrid tends to get maxed out well before CPU on most setups.
Inkarr Hashur
Skyline Federation
#8 - 2013-01-11 16:12:15 UTC
If you have a planet where you are frequently hitting the cap of storage on your launchpad, then build a silo. If you aren't, then don't build the silo.

Also if you have a tax-free POCO, it makes an incredibly awesome backup silo. With no PG or CPU requirement.
Kestrix
The Whispering
#9 - 2013-01-11 16:16:44 UTC
With PI I don't bother with extraction. I buy all the raw materials through buy orders on the market and process them myself. You only set up your PI once and then all you need to do is fill them up with raw materials and take away the processed stuff. And yes have it all running through a launch pad.
Styth spiting
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-01-11 17:57:39 UTC
The only difference between a launch pad and storage is a lunch pad allows you to launch goods from planet and can hold 10,000m3 of goods, while a storage silo can store 12,000m3 worth fo goods. Thats it.

So yeah, always have a launch pad. If you need more storage build a storage silo AND keep your launch pad.
Byrrssa Crendraven
Anti - Social
#11 - 2013-01-22 00:09:32 UTC
When I do pi, I never use a silo. Launchpads are just way too convenient. Don't have to worry about transfer times either. Also, I can drop mats at any stage of manufacturing if you use multiple launchpads. Usually, my planets consist of 1 CC, 2LP, 2 Extractors with each extractor going to its own launchpad.
Tash'k Omar
Indefinite Mass
#12 - 2013-01-22 05:05:27 UTC
Quote:
The only difference between a launch pad and storage is a lunch pad allows you to launch goods from planet and can hold 10,000m3 of goods, while a storage silo can store 12,000m3 worth fo goods. Thats it.


Wow, apparently I haven't done PI for a while.

Back when it first released there was almost no advantage to using a storage facility over a launchpad, since the launchpad had 10,000m3 of space compared to the storage facilitys 5,000m3. Even on a factory planet you almost never ran out of CPU before PG, so the storage facility was useless.

Happy to see they changed that, if the quoted post can be believed.

In answer to OP's question, a Launchpad does everything a Storage Facility does, it just uses a bit more CPU and can launch packages into space.
Whang'Lo
Cosmically Irrelevant
#13 - 2013-01-23 05:08:24 UTC
Quote:
Back when it first released


I loved when it was first released and you could see everyone elses PI setup on the planet.

Then people started making names with the PI stuff.

You would look at a planet and see a big giant... F. U. Lol

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Moryg H'qarr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-01-23 08:49:00 UTC
I used a storage facility as a mid point while living in a WH - the extractors were routed to it so that the P0 didn't clog up the launchpad with the uneven cycle (3days and some hours, the first hours produced tons of material, the rest was just a trickle in comparison, was fueling 2 P2 factories with it and they would fill up the launchpad in just under a month without emptying).

The storage facilities are not without use, but the launchpad is way more useful in general.
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
#15 - 2013-01-23 19:01:53 UTC
I only use the storage silo's when I need additional storage beyond what the launch pad provides. Launching from the command center does not make any isk, as it can only launch 500m3 at a time with a long cool down between.

Most of my set ups look like a star with the LP in the middle, surrounded by factories ac close as possible to reduce links. I have a couple heavy extraction planets that do use storage silos. For them I route all P0 to the silo, then from there to the factories, with output P1 going to the launch pad. I only do this because the launch pad can not hold two days worth of P1 without losing space for the P0 from the extractors. If you are making PI for POS fuel this would be your gas planet making O2.
Mister Tuggles
Heretic Army
Sedition.
#16 - 2013-01-24 14:25:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Tuggles
Customs Offices offer 30k storage.

Just use a launchpad. If you have your PI set up correctly you will pretty much never reach the limit of it.

edit: If you attend to it correctly that is.