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Millennium Falcon – what faction, class, bonuses?

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Renzo Ruderi
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-01-21 20:22:11 UTC
As much as I'd hate to agree with Some Rando, he's right. The Falcon wasn't a special snowflake, it was mass-produced just like every other ship. In fact, it was a pile - run down, falling apart, full of non-OEM replacement parts and spot-welds.

The only thing that made it special was its crew, and their exploits. Serenity (Firefly) had nearly the exact same story; it was a mass-produced cargo ship turned junker, that happened to acquire an interesting, adventurous crew.

Not dumping on Sci Fi, just rabid Falcon Frenzy.
Thgil Goldcore
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-01-21 20:22:29 UTC
Some points of interest about the falcon.

Well the key thing about the Millennium falcon is its tiny by eve comparisons... Only some 30 meters long. That's smaller than a shuttle.

Its cargo is fairly small too. listed as 100 metric tons. Eve doesn't list capacity in weight but by m3, but that's not much either way.

Unlike a shuttle it does have 2 turrets (1 in eve terms... one on each side)

Also it is listed as having some form of ECM along with its awsome speed.

Baring this in mind I would think in eve terms it would be a shuttle sized ship with a cargo hold of roughly 10-20m3. It would have 1 turret hard point and an free highslot.

Its bonuses would be a bonus to ECM burst effectiveness and a bonus to warp speed. Mabye... just mabye a roll bonus of interdiction nullifcation.

It wouldn't be an effective ship for most things... useful getting blueprints or high value faction modules though places it shouldn't.
Shadowschild
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2013-01-21 20:22:39 UTC
One word: NYX
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2013-01-21 20:32:40 UTC
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#25 - 2013-01-21 20:55:57 UTC
Ovv Topik wrote:
Stegas Tyrano wrote:
Isn't it a Light Freighter?

Well CCP did a good job coming up with the Rifter/X-Wing in a non copyright infringing way.

Lets have a 'Fillenium Malken - Light freighter' in the next expansion CCP.



I've always thought the Coercer was the rip on the MF.Twin boom bow, right side cockpit, flat...

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Kai Sheia
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-01-21 21:28:08 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.


so, considering the given explanation of that... it should be an agility bonus not a warp-speed bonus?

Maxpie
MUSE LLP
#27 - 2013-01-21 21:45:42 UTC
Renzo Ruderi wrote:
As much as I'd hate to agree with Some Rando, he's right. The Falcon wasn't a special snowflake, it was mass-produced just like every other ship. In fact, it was a pile - run down, falling apart, full of non-OEM replacement parts and spot-welds.

The only thing that made it special was its crew, and their exploits. Serenity (Firefly) had nearly the exact same story; it was a mass-produced cargo ship turned junker, that happened to acquire an interesting, adventurous crew.

Not dumping on Sci Fi, just rabid Falcon Frenzy.



Obviously it was rigged though. I recall Han mentioning that he made some "special modifications" of his own.

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Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-01-21 21:45:55 UTC
Scale-wise it's smaller than an EVE frigate.
Prince Mammon
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-01-21 22:17:07 UTC
YT-1300

Conceived by a panel of CEC shipbuilding experts with help from Narro Sienar,[4] the YT series went on to become one of the most popular space transport hulls ever produced, revolutionizing the interstellar shipping industry with its unparalleled application of modular design. Whole sections could be mass-produced and arranged into new configurations as needed without extensive retooling. This saved CEC enormous amounts of credits by allowing the starships to be brought to market at extremely competitive prices.

The YT-1300 model exemplified this concept with a circular main corridor and modular compartments that could be mounted around it, all radiating outwards from a central core inside a saucer-shaped hull making for both a convenient and economic design.

Role Bonus:
10% increased speed per lvl
10% agility per lvl

Special ability:
50% reduction of Afterburner powergrid use
50% reduction of Shild Booster powergrid use

2 High Slots (1 turrent)
5 Mid slots
3 Low slots

Spec's and size listed here:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/YT-1300_light_freighter


Han's fit had to include an oversized ab and shield booster after all Lol

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The Troll Bridge
#30 - 2013-01-21 22:42:05 UTC
The YT-1300 would be a noobship. Able to be pilotted by either beginner, or true PvP elite. The best part, Free.

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AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#31 - 2013-01-21 23:11:17 UTC  |  Edited by: AstraPardus
Ok, I'm going to lay my 2 ISK out on the table, here...

Role wise, most certainly a Blockade Runner or Deep Space Transport, because those are the closest thing to a smuggling ship EVE has. Fit wise, Han modified his hyperdrive to one of the fastest available, so he would have assurely used Hyperspace Velocity rigs to warp faster. I also agree with the modified shields, as I believe the falcon also had military-grade shield deflectors. It would have to include one turrest slot for the quad-laser turrets and one launcher slot, because it had concussion missiles added, as well. An oversized MWD or AB is also very likely...all in all, it's reall hard to say because the classification conventions between EVE and Star Wars are very different...but I would put my money on a very craftily fitted Caldari Blockade Runner. I say Caldari, because i see them being more like the Corellians than other races...and even though it was a bucket of bolts, it was a mass-produced model of a supercorp.
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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#32 - 2013-01-21 23:11:33 UTC
The YT-1300 would be the equivalent size of a noobship. It's too small to be a frigate. The violator would be the closest to the millenium falcon since the violator has a turret and a launcher hardpoint, though it's bonuses are related to rail technology not laser technology.

Purpose-wise the millenium falcon would be a sansha's nation hauler. Role bonus 100% to small energy turret damage, Amarr bonus to turret tracking and cargo, caldari bonus to turret damage and velocity. Three high (1T,1L,IU), five or six mid, two or three low, 2 rig, no dronebay.
Hakaimono
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-01-21 23:23:56 UTC
Isn't it the first ship in scifi history to "get under the guns"?
Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#34 - 2013-01-21 23:24:58 UTC
Kai Sheia wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.


so, considering the given explanation of that... it should be an agility bonus not a warp-speed bonus?



The 12 parsecs quote is about the 18 parsec route in star wars known as the kessel run. Han manipulated space-time (Star wars space-time, not real space-time) by flying very close to the maw, using it's unique geography to shorten the distance. If you wished to translate this to eve it would probably be a probe bonus or a mass reduction when entering w-space since the closest thing EvE has to the maw is w-space.
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2013-01-21 23:27:53 UTC
Kai Sheia wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.


so, considering the given explanation of that... it should be an agility bonus not a warp-speed bonus?



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Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-01-21 23:40:32 UTC
Shadowschild wrote:
One word: NYX



Two words: CAN'T DOCK

But yeah, it's nice on screenshots. X

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Renzo Ruderi
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-01-21 23:45:51 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Kai Sheia wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.


so, considering the given explanation of that... it should be an agility bonus not a warp-speed bonus?



The 12 parsecs quote is about the 18 parsec route in star wars known as the kessel run. Han manipulated space-time (Star wars space-time, not real space-time) by flying very close to the maw, using it's unique geography to shorten the distance. If you wished to translate this to eve it would probably be a probe bonus or a mass reduction when entering w-space since the closest thing EvE has to the maw is w-space.


This is the problem with Star Wars fanatics. At least Christopher Lloyd had the humor and decency to admit that Doc Brown's "1.21 JIGGAWATTS" was simply a pronunciation mistake that nobody bothered to correct during filming. The parsecs quote can't be fixed or explained away through retcon. Call it what it is, actors saying the wrong thing back in the 70's because that's what somebody wrote down wrong, back in the 70's.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#38 - 2013-01-22 00:02:16 UTC
YT-1300 light freighter
AstraPardus
Earthside Mixlabs
#39 - 2013-01-22 00:08:15 UTC  |  Edited by: AstraPardus
Renzo Ruderi wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Kai Sheia wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.


so, considering the given explanation of that... it should be an agility bonus not a warp-speed bonus?



The 12 parsecs quote is about the 18 parsec route in star wars known as the kessel run. Han manipulated space-time (Star wars space-time, not real space-time) by flying very close to the maw, using it's unique geography to shorten the distance. If you wished to translate this to eve it would probably be a probe bonus or a mass reduction when entering w-space since the closest thing EvE has to the maw is w-space.


This is the problem with Star Wars fanatics. At least Christopher Lloyd had the humor and decency to admit that Doc Brown's "1.21 JIGGAWATTS" was simply a pronunciation mistake that nobody bothered to correct during filming. The parsecs quote can't be fixed or explained away through retcon. Call it what it is, actors saying the wrong thing back in the 70's because that's what somebody wrote down wrong, back in the 70's.


Actually, if you take Quantum Physics into consideration, the statement you are attempting to debunk is theoretically true, flying close to black holes theoretically causes a distortion of time and space (or what we call time and space) to a degree that time passes differently for you than it does everyone else...and at different rates, depending on how close to it you are...as well as space being more dense, etc.

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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts
#40 - 2013-01-22 00:12:58 UTC
Renzo Ruderi wrote:
Super spikinator wrote:
Kai Sheia wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
WarlockX wrote:
It defiantly would need a high warp speed and even a bonus to warp speed.

If you're adressing the "less than 12 parsecs" quote ...

A parsec is a unit of distance, not time.

Needs a bit of reading to understand his words.


so, considering the given explanation of that... it should be an agility bonus not a warp-speed bonus?



The 12 parsecs quote is about the 18 parsec route in star wars known as the kessel run. Han manipulated space-time (Star wars space-time, not real space-time) by flying very close to the maw, using it's unique geography to shorten the distance. If you wished to translate this to eve it would probably be a probe bonus or a mass reduction when entering w-space since the closest thing EvE has to the maw is w-space.


This is the problem with Star Wars fanatics. At least Christopher Lloyd had the humor and decency to admit that Doc Brown's "1.21 JIGGAWATTS" was simply a pronunciation mistake that nobody bothered to correct during filming. The parsecs quote can't be fixed or explained away through retcon. Call it what it is, actors saying the wrong thing back in the 70's because that's what somebody wrote down wrong, back in the 70's.


Well, I'm not a fanatic :(

A fanatic would know that the script has "Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation." as a director's note.

I do need to clean up what I said though so it is stated as opinion rather than fact.