Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So we have cyno jammers, which don't allow you to jump into the system.
Why not have a structure which blocks you from jumping out of the system?

It can be either an iHub upgrade, requiring sov 4 or 5, or a free standing structure which is invulnerable until iHub is destroyed.

Once onlined, It would prevent any ships with jump drives from jumping out of the system, as well as any kind of portals/bridges.
A structure like this would ensure that any supers/capitals committed to the field are actually committed till the end. With the current reinforce timer system this would mean few days. It would have a visible 24H offline timer, meaning the home side stays committed too.

This opens a possibility of different strategies, like luring the enemies fleet into a system and locking them there, while you go and reinforce their systems.

Would also make logistics more fluid, as the routes will change depending on which systems have this module online.

Also it won't be as easy to bring your supercapital fleet into a fight from the other end of the map. Hot drops become more risky.


A structure like this would make for some interesting gameplay. Just need to be well thought out to ensure it doesn't give too much advantage to one side.

you wouldn't trap your own fleet, you'd trap the enemy fleet

the online timer can be small, like half an hour.

And whatever friendly caps happened to be in system at the time would be trapped too.



Also, half an hour is more than enough time for the guys you're trying to trap to just smash the structure, even with subcaps. All this thing would do is add another structure to grind through.

they wouldn't be able to do anything with it, it's invulnerable

the primary reason wouldn't be what you said, it would be to deter attackers from dropping capital fleet into your system unless they are really committed to taking it over.

yes, i'm fully aware how long it takes to drop an iHub

that's the whole point of the idea

well not really

the 24H OFFLINE timer will take care of that. once you deployed your fleet into a system where this module is online, you are stuck there for 24 hours.

you will have to either split your fleet into smaller ones scattered across all your systems, in which case the attacking force just needs to pick one system to attack, or you have it all in one system, and leave the rest of them for the enemy to take.

so the change will make for some interesting new tactics.

also don't forget a strategic index 4 or 5 requirement, to be able to use this structure you will have to hold the system for a while so it's not exactly 'any blue system'

and who said that more subcap fights is a bad thing?

also if you chose to have that structure on in all of your systems, you'll have bunch of pirates camping all the outbound gates, cause your jump freighters can't jump out now.

Ok, this doesn't really change things though. I'm not going to commit my caps to a battle that might get stuck there for 24h, especially with how easy is it to probe caps down.

Making caps harder or riskier to deploy is just going to make the defender's advantage for large alliances that much stronger.


Splitting up cap fleets is a bad idea 10/10 times. Especially if they can't quickly jump to eachother.


No. It'll prevent people from using caps to grind sov, which means large BS gangs are going to be the only viable solution now unless you're clinically insane.


Most sov is SI4+.


subcap fights are already pretty much all the fights. It sounds more like you just don't want to fight caps because your corp is unable to properly defend against them.

What. The defender has nothing to fear, only the attacker. Unless your mod automatically deploys as soon as a cyno goes up or something bizarre like that.

I should probably clarify about the timers.

24h offline timer is for the system owner to be able to switch off the module if they wish. it's not an invulnerability timer.
the structure is invulnerable for the whole time when there is an iHub in the system, regardless whether it's online or not.

otherwise once the module is turned on you wouldn't be able to jump your own fleet out, unless you feel like killing your own iHub.

half an hour for the module to come online is so that it isn't used just as means to trap a lone capital which is using the system as midpoint. there is nothing stopping the system owner from having the structure online permanently and/or online it before important timers.

i think having this structure will avoid a lot of blue balling, when the defending side doesn't come, or doesn't deploy their supers for fear of a big blob in the jump range.

it has nothing to do with stupidity of the attacking side, as it's not designed to be a mouse trap.

Came expecting someone to suggest thunderdoming capitals without realising that this would mean attackers would never attack ever. Left satisfied.