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Salvage drones, working as intended?

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Vaulnyr
Cognitive Dissidents
#41 - 2013-01-20 09:13:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaulnyr
CENTUREAN wrote:
1 warp to site.
2 do not target anything.
3 pop out salvage drones
4 do not target anything.
5 set drones to salvage.
6 wait 4 seconds. Then noctis tractor beam in all wreaks to 0
7 at this point the drones are automatic
8 tractor and salvage till done.

Confirmed. This has worked perfectly the last five times I've gone salvaging. Thanks much CENTUREAN.
Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
#42 - 2013-01-20 11:17:34 UTC
It works as long as you generated the wreck yourself and by yourself only. The autosalvage does not touch anything else, not allied/corp/abandoned wrecks. Only those you generated with your own account.
Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
#43 - 2013-01-20 11:26:34 UTC
One minor thing, salvage drones won't pop up a skill insufficient message like normally salvaging attempts do.

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Dark Drifter
Sons of Seyllin
Pirate Lords of War
#44 - 2013-01-21 02:43:25 UTC
tell drones to salvage while nothing is locked,

drones will then salvage wrecks, they will start with the closest wrecks then move further out. if you tractor wrecks then they will salvage them first.
Stein Backstabber
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2013-01-21 08:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Stein Backstabber
MainDrain wrote:
Yup having the same issue of my drones not salvaging my fleets wrecks, even when made blue


This.

I recall a dev post saying their view was this was a bug, but have lost track of it/seen no updates - has there been any word on this?
nesdaq
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-01-21 22:16:45 UTC
bump,

Also if a corp mate is pulling your wrecks it marks the wrecks NOT yours anymore.

DEV, respond plz.
nesdaq
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2013-01-23 22:54:44 UTC
bump
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-23 22:57:25 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.



This is specifically why I do not use them. Tried them numerous different times, over the course of a week, and not once could I get them to salvage wrecks that were killed by one of my incorp alts that was not the character deploying the salvage drones.
Merouk Baas
#49 - 2013-01-24 01:17:26 UTC
The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly.

You can manually lock up 5 wrecks and right-click each drone to send it after a different wreck but they stop after their wreck is salvaged, and go back to all going after the same wreck.

Oh, and they don't respond to the All Drones Engage keybind, even if you do have a wreck targetted and selected as the recipient. YOU HAVE TO USE THE RIGHT-CLICK to get them to do their job.

Extremely annoying.

I'd prefer my drones to engage the wreck if I command them to, and to each go after a different wreck if I don't have drones to focus fire.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-01-24 05:56:10 UTC
Merouk Baas wrote:
The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly.

You can manually lock up 5 wrecks and right-click each drone to send it after a different wreck but they stop after their wreck is salvaged, and go back to all going after the same wreck.

Oh, and they don't respond to the All Drones Engage keybind, even if you do have a wreck targetted and selected as the recipient. YOU HAVE TO USE THE RIGHT-CLICK to get them to do their job.

Extremely annoying.

I'd prefer my drones to engage the wreck if I command them to, and to each go after a different wreck if I don't have drones to focus fire.


You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually?

This is pretty basic, EVE 101 type stuff.

so...

Deploy drones > don't target anything > right click "drones in space" and select salvage > ????? > profit.

By the way, in an area with a mix of wrecks (your own and someone else's) this is what the Noctis is for. You send drones to autosalvage your wrecks, while you use the Noctis to salvage everyone else's. Also, drones are good for getting to wrecks that are beyond tractor range - target those wrecks and manually order your drones to salvage them, and you won't have to slowboat all the way over their yourself.

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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#51 - 2013-01-24 06:36:24 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Merouk Baas wrote:
The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly.


You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually?


I'm not sure how instructing Merouk Baas to do exactly what he's already doing is supposed to solve the problem he's having.

Perhaps you want to read his post again and realise that you just made yourself look like a donkey for no good reason?

Setting drones to auto-salvage will end up with most wrecks being salvaged by more than one drone, meaning that at least one drone has wasted that entire salvage cycle.

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Fanatic Row
Neo T.E.C.H.
#52 - 2013-01-24 06:40:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Fanatic Row
Remiel Pollard wrote:
You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually?

This is pretty basic, EVE 101 type stuff.
Did you know that he doesn't want all drones going after the same target? Which is exactly what they will do when doing this, unless ordered individually, despite 'focus fire' being off?

Pretty basic reading 101

Remiel Pollard wrote:

so...

Deploy drones > don't target anything > right click "drones in space" and select salvage > ????? > profit.

By the way, in an area with a mix of wrecks (your own and someone else's) this is what the Noctis is for. You send drones to autosalvage your wrecks, while you use the Noctis to salvage everyone else's. Also, drones are good for getting to wrecks that are beyond tractor range - target those wrecks and manually order your drones to salvage them, and you won't have to slowboat all the way over their yourself.
Did you know that a lot of players salvage on an alt account, and that drones wont auto salvage fleetmembers' wrecks when doing this?
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-01-25 04:35:34 UTC
Mara Rinn wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Merouk Baas wrote:
The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly.


You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually?


I'm not sure how instructing Merouk Baas to do exactly what he's already doing is supposed to solve the problem he's having.

Perhaps you want to read his post again and realise that you just made yourself look like a donkey for no good reason?

Setting drones to auto-salvage will end up with most wrecks being salvaged by more than one drone, meaning that at least one drone has wasted that entire salvage cycle.


I just checked the mirror.... nope, still human.

The more drones on a target, the better chance of salvage. Not seeing anything more than a personal problem here.

Same with the other post - I know they won't autosalvage wrecks you don't destroy yourself, that's why I explained "that's what the noctis is for".

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mag's
Azn Empire
#54 - 2013-01-25 08:08:08 UTC
Drones don't work correctly in Eve. News at eleven.

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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#55 - 2013-01-25 08:31:02 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Right click the "Drones in active space" header in drone management, choose salvage. That is the fastest way to get all salvage drones to automate the entire field. Targeting a wreck and choosing salvage on the target will indeed tell them to do that target only. Additionally we spotted an issue with corporation owned wrecks (that were killed by a corp member) are sometimes not being auto salvaged with the rest.

As for the shortcut key, it was a bit trickier than normal, as the auto-salvage command does not require a target to be locked. We
are working on bringing a shortcut key though.


+1 Devs caring for little things!

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.
nesdaq
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2013-01-30 07:27:45 UTC
bump :)
Merouk Baas
#57 - 2013-01-30 10:57:03 UTC
No need to bump, nothing will be done about it short term. They're busy with DUST launch. Dev has posted; they've seen this thread.

A year from now, maybe they'll remember.
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#58 - 2013-01-30 11:10:34 UTC
Landrae wrote:
So I picked up some salvage drones and the skill book for my noctis and after using the to clean angel forsaken hubs I noticed a couple things.

1. You cant bind the salvage command to a key like when you tell drones to attack.

2. Salvage drones as I understand as supposed to be like mining drones and just salvage your wrecks until their is nothing left within range to salvage, yet they salvage one target then wait for me to click to tell them next one to get.

Now is this a bug or working as intended?



OK for Salv drones to "work" autonamously you need to have NOTHING targeted, and THEN you set them to SALVAGE and watch the little blighters get to work (limited by drone control range)

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Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
#59 - 2013-01-30 11:52:43 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Mara Rinn wrote:
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Merouk Baas wrote:
The drones do automatically salvage, but they always go for the nearest wreck, which means that, regardless of the FOCUS FIRE setting, all 5 drones always go for the same wreck. So one drone will salvage the wreck and 4 drones will circle uselessly.


You know the thing you click to pull down the list of drones you have in space? It says "drones in space". Did you know that if you right click on that, instead of the drones beneath it, you can issue one order to all your drones without having to interact with each one individually?


I'm not sure how instructing Merouk Baas to do exactly what he's already doing is supposed to solve the problem he's having.

Perhaps you want to read his post again and realise that you just made yourself look like a donkey for no good reason?

Setting drones to auto-salvage will end up with most wrecks being salvaged by more than one drone, meaning that at least one drone has wasted that entire salvage cycle.


I just checked the mirror.... nope, still human.

The more drones on a target, the better chance of salvage. Not seeing anything more than a personal problem here.

Same with the other post - I know they won't autosalvage wrecks you don't destroy yourself, that's why I explained "that's what the noctis is for".



From my experimentation recently it looks like your drones will salvage all your fleets' wrecks if you are the fleet boss.

More tests necessary to be sure but it looks like we may have a work-around.
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#60 - 2013-01-30 16:48:13 UTC
The binding sucks, that should definitely change.

But once I give the command to salvage, they keep doing so, just like mining drones.
Pretty sweet if you are just salvaging known space rats

Now we need T2 for WH space.

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