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The Great Boost Nerf - still train?
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Lando Tangent
Sovereign Citizen and other Tax Evasion Schemes
#1 - 2013-01-12 21:40:10 UTC
So, with the impending nerf to boosts causing whining and crying all around, do you (SD forum) believe that training for skills is still worth it?

I'm going to base a remap on what you think will happen, so let's hear it.
Freighdee Katt
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-12 22:26:37 UTC
As I understand it the big "nerf" will just be to off-grid boosting. It doesn't seem that CCP thinks boosting is a problem, just POS-camping ninja boosting. That said, it looks like Command Ships will be a lot shorter to train into after their skills are reworked, so you might want to wait and see how that shakes out first.

EvE is supposed to suck.  Wait . . . what was the question?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#3 - 2013-01-13 00:28:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
The only "nerf" will be to the skills required for Command Ships.

Notably: Logistics 4 for Fleet Command and Heavy Assault Ships 4 for Field Command.

I recommend you read the Dev Blog - Back to Balancing the Future : Command and Conquer

Also Dev Blog - Rebalancing EVE, One Ship At A Time
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#4 - 2013-01-13 07:24:01 UTC
Ship bonuses are being nerfed.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2013-01-13 07:37:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Paikis wrote:
Ship bonuses are being nerfed.

Only T3 bonuses are being reduced from 5% to 2% (Command Ships remain 3%), but they are gaining bonuses for other links. See the Command and Conquer Dev Blog I linked above.
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#6 - 2013-01-13 08:36:52 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Ship bonuses are being nerfed.

Only T3 bonuses are being reduced from 5% to 2% (Command Ships remain 3%), but they are gaining bonuses for other links. See the Command and Conquer Dev Blog I linked above.


I read the dev blog when it was released. Is 5% -> 2% not a nerf anymore?
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2013-01-13 10:05:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Paikis wrote:
I read the dev blog when it was released. Is 5% -> 2% not a nerf anymore?

Sure, but it is one boosting ship-type, which everyone knew was unbalanced. It doesn't negate the value of boosting.

2% per level ship skill yields: 12.375 link multiplier bonus (max)

3% per level ship skill yields: 12.9375 link multiplier bonus (max)

5% per level ship skill yields: 14.0625 link multiplier bonus (max)

So now you get two or three bonused links from one ship, instead of just one bonused link. It also makes Gallente boosters useful.
Zoltan Lazar
#8 - 2013-01-16 03:36:22 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Ship bonuses are being nerfed.

Only T3 bonuses are being reduced from 5% to 2% (Command Ships remain 3%), but they are gaining bonuses for other links. See the Command and Conquer Dev Blog I linked above.


I read the dev blog when it was released. Is 5% -> 2% not a nerf anymore?


5->2 isn't a nerf when you get 2 in three different categories.
Femke Doutz
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-17 05:35:29 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Ship bonuses are being nerfed.

Only T3 bonuses are being reduced from 5% to 2% (Command Ships remain 3%), but they are gaining bonuses for other links. See the Command and Conquer Dev Blog I linked above.


I read the dev blog when it was released. Is 5% -> 2% not a nerf anymore?


5->2 isn't a nerf when you get 2 in three different categories.

But it is when you used to get 5 in three different categories?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#10 - 2013-01-17 09:19:37 UTC
Femke Doutz wrote:
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Paikis wrote:
Ship bonuses are being nerfed.

Only T3 bonuses are being reduced from 5% to 2% (Command Ships remain 3%), but they are gaining bonuses for other links. See the Command and Conquer Dev Blog I linked above.


I read the dev blog when it was released. Is 5% -> 2% not a nerf anymore?


5->2 isn't a nerf when you get 2 in three different categories.

But it is when you used to get 5 in three different categories?


Not from one ship you didn't.

The Damnation and the Claymore will easily be the best Fleet Command ships if the proposed changes go through.

So. No change there there.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Skarned
Inroads
#11 - 2013-01-20 00:29:16 UTC
Quote:
Seleene brought up the topic of off-grid boosting, and Fozzie responded that technical limitations were the only reason it continued to exist. Fozzie could not comment on when this issue would be resolved and stated that “one day Veritas will come up to me and say ‘hey I fixed off-grid boosting’”, but he had no idea on a potential timeframe for this sort of miracle.


^ that is from the December CSM meeting notes found here on pg 49: http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_December_2012.pdf

The only change coming in the near future is the nerfs to T3 boosting percentages and buffs to CS boost percentages. With those changes it'll be far better to stick a command ship at a pos than to have your hard to probe loki at a safespot, but it seems both will remain an option.