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Seeking Advice. Google doesn't help.

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Vinland Fonte
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-18 09:04:17 UTC
I'm a new player to EVE and find it difficult to get much done, or to equip certain things due to lack of skillbooks, etc.

I finished the tutorial missions for the Caldari, and wanted to ask you, the players:

Where do I go now? I want a home base, but I don't want to risk joining a player corp, as I've seen them called. Where should I go? I plan to take all my belongings there and truly call it a home.

Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#2 - 2013-01-18 09:08:27 UTC
best way is to join a corp which takes up noobs. they can advise you and train you for the real world.

You can always look at the certificate planner.

Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-01-18 09:14:15 UTC
Vinland Fonte wrote:
I
Where do I go now? I want a home base, but I don't want to risk joining a player corp, as I've seen them called. Where should I go?


Frankly, the answer would be: go to an other game.

Eve is all about player generated content and player-player interactions. It's a sandbox, CCP just provides some terrible excuses for PVE content, the real game is what the players make of it- and this has made Eve so unique amongst all other MMOs (this and the single shard concept).
You cannot have your own base (POS= Player Owned Structure) as a member of a NPC corp, you will have to risk something in order to achieve something.
There are a lot of newbie friendly corps that will take care of you and teach you how to get stuff done (Eve Uni, Goons, Test, etc). Just talk to one of their recruiters and decide for yourself.


P.S. welcome to EVE

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Vinland Fonte
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-01-18 09:17:33 UTC
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Vinland Fonte wrote:
I
Where do I go now? I want a home base, but I don't want to risk joining a player corp, as I've seen them called. Where should I go?


Frankly, the answer would be: go to an other game.

Eve is all about player generated content and player-player interactions. It's a sandbox, CCP just provides some terrible excuses for PVE content, the real game is what the players make of it- and this has made Eve so unique amongst all other MMOs (this and the single shard concept).
You cannot have your own base (POS= Player Owned Structure) as a member of a NPC corp, you will have to risk something in order to achieve something.
There are a lot of newbie friendly corps that will take care of you and teach you how to get stuff done (Eve Uni, Goons, Test, etc). Just talk to one of their recruiters and decide for yourself.


P.S. welcome to EVE



I didn't mean my own, personal base.

My current 'home' is SAK Station, but I'd like to move to a more populated area. I'm not worried about corps at the moment, mainly because at any given time there are 300 active players on the SAK corps, so it feels like I'm not playing alone.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-01-18 09:18:30 UTC
What Zeta said. Also,welcome to Eve! You can check-out any time you like,but you can never leave... -awesome guitar solo-
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-01-18 09:20:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Why do you want to move to a more "populated" area ? Just means more competition for you, the less people the better. If you are bored then just join a chat channel.

And this

Im a mission runner so this is how i decide on where to move. I go to the map, look at "pilots in space" statistic. I then use the agent finder to see which corp i want to grind for and then just proceed with order of elimination.
Things to look out for:
-Clone bay
-Multiple agents within constellation
-Trade hub(this could be in another region but still less than 6 jumps)
-Number of locals

After you've done all that you can find some nice systems with low population, this eliminates the chance of you getting ganked/ninja'd.
Finarfin
Cerulean Void
#7 - 2013-01-18 09:21:30 UTC
As has already been said. Try to find a suitable player corp asap (maybe check out EvE Uni, never been a member but they are recommend often for newer players). As for ressources I can recommend the following.

TEST alliance has a great newbie skillplan in their public wiki section: https://wiki.pleaseignore.com/wiki/Basic_30_day_Plan

als here is a great overview of all the possible things you can do in EvE: http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
pick what you are interested in and research what skills and ship you would need for it.
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-18 09:22:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Zimmy Zeta
Vinland Fonte wrote:
Zimmy Zeta wrote:
Vinland Fonte wrote:
I
Where do I go now? I want a home base, but I don't want to risk joining a player corp, as I've seen them called. Where should I go?


Frankly, the answer would be: go to an other game.

Eve is all about player generated content and player-player interactions. It's a sandbox, CCP just provides some terrible excuses for PVE content, the real game is what the players make of it- and this has made Eve so unique amongst all other MMOs (this and the single shard concept).
You cannot have your own base (POS= Player Owned Structure) as a member of a NPC corp, you will have to risk something in order to achieve something.
There are a lot of newbie friendly corps that will take care of you and teach you how to get stuff done (Eve Uni, Goons, Test, etc). Just talk to one of their recruiters and decide for yourself.


P.S. welcome to EVE



I didn't mean my own, personal base.

My current 'home' is SAK Station, but I'd like to move to a more populated area. I'm not worried about corps at the moment, mainly because at any given time there are 300 active players on the SAK corps, so it feels like I'm not playing alone.



Ah, ok, sorry, so I misunderstood your OP.

You will have to look out for systems with level 3 and level 4 agents where you can run missions to earn some isk.
I started and lived in Kaunokka and Venilen in the Citadel region.
Decently populated, close enough to Jita, many high quality agents and a good local market (well, maybe no longer since I left Blink)

edit: you could also take a look at the dotlan maps http://evemaps.dotlan.net/ and look for systems with many jumps/24h as an indicator of activity.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Vinland Fonte
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-01-18 09:22:58 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Why do you want to move to a more "populated" area ? Just means more competition for you, the less people the better.


Because in an MMO, I'd like to see other players, you know? Whenever I undock from my home station, the most other players I'll ever see is like, three. Max.

But I'll take up Garia and Zeta, and look for a large corp.

I tried Uni, but I can't even chat in their join channel, so I quickly stopped bothering with that.

RvB is PvP from what I've read, so noooooo thanks.

Yim Sei
Ontogenic Achronycal PLC
#10 - 2013-01-18 09:25:20 UTC
Vinland Fonte wrote:
I'm a new player to EVE and find it difficult to get much done, or to equip certain things due to lack of skillbooks, etc.

I finished the tutorial missions for the Caldari, and wanted to ask you, the players:

Where do I go now? I want a home base, but I don't want to risk joining a player corp, as I've seen them called. Where should I go? I plan to take all my belongings there and truly call it a home.

Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!


OK m8, I will try and help.

First off you have done the turorials - thats good.

So now you have a very general idea of what you can do let me ask you a question - what 2 or 3 things did you enjoy or find most interesting?.

Take those 3 things and try to figure out which one will make you the most isk.

Try to concentrate on skilling up and levelling for that - that will be your initial chosen career path.

Download Evemon and Eve fitting tool - these are going to save you lots of time.

Look for systems relevant to your chosen career path for example:

Trading - local trade hub - Dodixie, Jita etc
Missioning - L1 to 4 missions for certain corps you have high standings with all in a local area
Mining - somewhere off the beaten track where roids arent cleared every day and near a trade hub.
PvP - all of the above + close access to lowsec areas not camped 24/7

Hope this helps for now

Post with my main? This is my main - I just overtrain and overplay my alts.

Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
#11 - 2013-01-18 09:25:21 UTC
Once you figure out how to make some money (PI, Mining, Market trading, Mission running etc..) buy up a bunch of T1 frigs, join RvB (Red vs Blue) and lose them all in glorious fires.

The most important thing you can learn in EVE is that you will lose ships, and not to be afraid of losing ships.

The second most important thing is to only fly what you can afford to lose.

The third, specialise early. Everywhere you go you will run into players with years more experience and SP than you, experience will just come the more you play, but you can mitigate the SP advantage by focusing your skill training into specific ships, weapons and tanking type. eg. Caldari frigates, blasters and shield tanking. (The same principle applies to non PvP paths as well.)

Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

Sometimes when I post, I look at my sig and wish that I'd follow my own god damned advice.

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#12 - 2013-01-18 09:26:30 UTC
Vinland Fonte wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Why do you want to move to a more "populated" area ? Just means more competition for you, the less people the better.


Because in an MMO, I'd like to see other players, you know? Whenever I undock from my home station, the most other players I'll ever see is like, three. Max.

But I'll take up Garia and Zeta, and look for a large corp.

I tried Uni, but I can't even chat in their join channel, so I quickly stopped bothering with that.

RvB is PvP from what I've read, so noooooo thanks.



go to jita,there are 2000+ players at peak times,you can interact as much as you want whether its pvp or market

if you are looking for corp. be carefull not to get fcked,dont trust anyone
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-01-18 09:30:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Also, you could just look at the corp info and see where they are based at(usually HQ office is the same system where they do stuff), usually they will be running missions/doing some manufacturing all in 1 area. After spending some time in that system you will see if they are a fun bunch or not and see if you want to join them.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#14 - 2013-01-18 09:39:00 UTC
Just join a player corp. Lets be honest here the only reasont to be really worried about joining a player corp would be if you had somthing to lose via joining them. You are a new player and essentialy have nothing to lose. You will experience the game and get more of a feel for it. You will then eventually find out what you enjoy and carry on doing it. Essentialy all new players go through a phase where they meet new people and get to play the game. Eve is what you make of it. This period of time can either be really boring (if you dont put yourself out there) or can be really exciting as you get to experience new types of gameplay and get to make friends that you may possibly relate with for the rest of your eve career,

Hope this helps ;)

/Princess

 ♥ 

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-01-18 10:50:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Ignore the losers who tell you to run missions to make money
and seek out other ways to make money.

Don't listen to a mission runner. They'll lure you into the isk/hr trap and narrow your mind down to stupidity and
irrelevant things like isk/hour or skill to a battleship to run lvl4s. Same goes for miners. Don't listen to them.
There are lots of these filthy creatures everywhere, pretending to help you,
but the only thing they'll do is ruin all your fun in the long run.

WHEN SOMEBODY TELLS YOU SOMETHING IS TOO DANGEROUS AND YOU'LL LOSE STUFF, IGNORE HIM !
YOU WILL ALWAYS LOSE THINGS ! IT'S NATURAL ! THIS GAME IS ABOUT SURVIVAL, NOT WINNING !

Try doing PI or trading. Trading is much more worth it than anything else,
if you learn how to buy low and sell high and you don't have to grind for hours to make money,
like those bozos who do it all day long and only think in isk/hour as if it was important.

Ninja salvaging (check youtube tutorials) is great for noobs too, although nowadays a "bit"
more dangerous than in the past.

Hell, if you like the thrill you can from wrecks that lay around, after battles. You just have to be careful about it,
because CCP made that a very hard noobish profession and everybody can shoot you for that.
But don't be afraid ... just be smart !


Another fun way to make money is finding friends who blow up other people and take their loot ...
quite a worthwhile venture, especially for a noob for whom a million ISK is a lot already.
And you don't risk getting spoiled or ruined by a carebear or whatever self entitled idiot.

I'm willing to accept you into my corp and teach you surviving and how to make money off of idiots.


Remember, though ... this game is not about the money. You need money, yes,
but you don't need more money than you need ... even if there are plenty of idiots playing
for nothing else than isk. They have no idea about all the fun in this game.



And there's three more good advises:

Stay away from corporations that do everything, but discourage pirating. Close minded morons.
As soon as somebody tells you that something is too dangerous and you'll die fast ... block him.
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose and don't autopilot, because i'll kill you for it.


Have fun. :)
Dave Stark
#16 - 2013-01-18 10:55:20 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Stay away from corporations that do everything, but discourage pirating. Close minded morons.


probably the best advice for new players, regarding corps. corps that do "everything" most often end up doing absolutely nothing.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-01-18 11:08:08 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Stay away from corporations that do everything, but discourage pirating. Close minded morons.


probably the best advice for new players, regarding corps. corps that do "everything" most often end up doing absolutely nothing.

Especially the self-righteous, carebear type.
Rain6639
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#18 - 2013-01-18 11:17:16 UTC
Todaki? I still live there. I have five accounts. all sitting in station: training.
Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries
#19 - 2013-01-18 11:32:39 UTC
Rain6639 wrote:
Todaki? I still live there. I have five accounts. all sitting in station: training.


Your Hot!

 ♥ 

Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-01-18 11:47:41 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Don't listen to a mission runner. They'll lure you into the isk/hr trap and narrow your mind down to stupidity and irrelevant things like isk/hour or skill to a battleship to run lvl4s.


To be honest, I don't think a real mission runner (someone who does missions for fun. Gasp, that exists?!?!? Why, yes, yes it does.) will worry about isk/hr all that much. It's usually those that use missions as primary income that worry about isk/hr because the faster they get their isk, the faster they can get back to whatever they like doing. Problem is, imo that's a failed concept, because you can make money doing just about anything, as you've stated in your post.

Vinland Fonte wrote:
I don't want to risk joining a player corp


Here's what I want you to do: dock in a station where you have nothing, you'll get a free ship. Now pick a random system on the edge of the map and fly to it in this ship. I want you to continue flying until someone kills your ship and your pod. Once you wake up in the station, ask yourself: was dying so scary? Now be a man - join a corp.

Perhaps you don't know where to go, what to do? There are corps out there to help you with that, such as EVE University or RvB. Just don't be limited by your preconceptions - only once you let go of them, will you trully be free.
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