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Muria Mac

Dropbears Anonymous

Brave Collective

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#1 - 2013-01-16 16:24:26 UTC | Edited by: Muria Mac

Hello all... recently I posted about what Gallente ships could be used in conjunction with 3 RR Tengus and pretty much found out here were none. I did some research and found the Rattlesnake which has a nice shield tank bonus as well as some nice drone bonuses. So my thought is that I could run with the 3 RR Tengus as a shield tank Rattlesnake / Drone Boat. I have been tinkering with the fits but haven't found anything I like exactly. I have almost all of the relevant ship / drone skills at 5 however my missile skills are almost non existent. Has anyone done this before? It will be primarily for C3/C4 sites. As always, thanks in advance for the helpful comments.

The following is what I have so far, it is just preliminary to see how it would work. Again I would have to depend on only drones for damage because my missile skills are crap.

[Rattlesnake, WH Rattlesnake]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Co-Processor II

EM Ward Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Heavy Nosferatu II
Heavy Nosferatu II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Expanded Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Processor Overclocking Unit I

Ogre II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Hammerhead II x10
Ogre II x4

With Ogre IIs this fit gives me just a hair under 800DPS. It also gives me 154 EHP with resists of 87/86/88/81. Should I be usiong sentry drones instead?

Federal Navy Academy 2,629
Batelle Federal Navy Academy Likes received: 2,629	#2 - 2013-01-16 17:44:20 UTC Why are you seriously gimping your entire setup to fit an expanded probe launcher. Why do you have ogres. Why do you not have an RR for your drones. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.

Muria Mac

Dropbears Anonymous

Brave Collective

Likes received: 2

#3 - 2013-01-16 18:19:57 UTC | Edited by: Muria Mac

I thought I was fairly clear that I have never run a drone boat in a WH and I wanted helpful feedback. Apparently you missed that. You have provided nothing but silly questions. If you want to post a fit feel free otherwise shut your pie hole and take your elitist attitude elsewhere.

Despite your lack of proper communication skills I did make some adjustments based on what you posted.

Dalts

Out of Focus

Odin's Call

Likes received: 80

#4 - 2013-01-16 19:10:47 UTC

So , no use in the expanded probe launcher as noted above. With proper WH control you just need a core probe launcher to watch for new sigs.

Aside from that, yes you need to use Sentries in a WH. You also need some Omnis in the mids to improve the hits and optimal from the drones.

Not got access to fitting programme atm but I'd run something like:-

DDA II
DDA II
DDA II
Cap Power Relay
Cap Power Relay
Cap Power Relay

Shield Extender II
Shield Extender II
Adaptive Shield Hardner II
Adaptive Shield Hardner II
EM Hardner II
Omni (Drone Tracking/Optimal)
Omni (Drone Tracking/Optimal)

Large Shield Transfer (Meta 4 or T2)
Large Shield Transfer (Meta 4 or T2)
Drone Link Augumentor II
Drone Link Augumentor II
Energy Transfer
Core Probe Launcher

Shield Therm Resist Rig (T2 if you have the skills)
Cap Recharge Rig
Cap Recharge Rig

Ideally energy chain with someone, if as you say you as running with just Tengus then the Energy transfer should be swapped for something else, can go with armor RR for drones that take damage, a cloak if you so wish, or a neut in case you get jumped (You're probably screwed at that point anyway but every little helps and a neut can be enough to take down a tackler if he engages alone with a gang on the way.

Cage Man

Fusion Enterprises Ltd

Pandemic Horde

Likes received: 442

#5 - 2013-01-16 19:15:27 UTC

I have a fit I used which works pretty well in a C3. Will have to dig it up when I get home. Do you need to have the probe launcher? and also sentries work better. The fit I used had energy transport rigs and pilot had cap implants and was active tanked. The tengu's had cap RR.
To be honest though , 4 shield RR tengus work just fine in a C4, which is how we used to run c4's. Just make sure you have the sub that increases range of missiles.


Muria Mac Dropbears Anonymous Brave Collective Likes received: 2	#6 - 2013-01-16 19:18:40 UTC Sweet thanks for the good ideas. I am taking the probe launcher off and will make the changes. What types of sentries should I be using? They will be able to hit all the way down to frigates right?


Dalts Out of Focus Odin's Call Likes received: 80	#7 - 2013-01-16 19:26:28 UTC You should be fitting Gardes and whichever hit to 100km with the 2 Omnis, Wardens I think it is but like I said not at the PC atm.

Batelle

Federal Navy Academy

Likes received: 2,629

#8 - 2013-01-16 21:06:31 UTC

Muria Mac wrote:

So my post was nothing but silly questions, except for the fact that those silly questions were actually serious questions, and my feedback was so unhelpful that you used it to improve your fit. Somehow I'm elitist despite freely offering asked-for advice, simply because I posed my answers in the form of a question, without using insulting language of any kind.

I have a few more "silly questions" that you could use to improve your ship further, but since you prefer statements, I'll give you one:

Eat **** and die.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.

Muria Mac

Dropbears Anonymous

Brave Collective

Likes received: 2

#9 - 2013-01-17 03:40:36 UTC | Edited by: Muria Mac

Like I said, feel free to exit the thread. Plenty of people have given me some great ideas in a very pleasant manner. You feeling the need to comment further only shows your huge ego and elitist attitude. Moving on, I have come up with another fit based on your suggestions.

[Rattlesnake, WH Rattlesnake]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Capacitor Power Relay II

EM Ward Field II
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Heavy Nosferatu II
Heavy Nosferatu II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I

Bouncer II x5
Garde II x5
Warden II x5

I wasn't sure which sentry drone is going to be optimal for this setup. I will have to be in range for the Tengus which is around 70km or there abouts. This is not cap stable but I probably will not have to run both transporters full time. I am assuming the Heavy Nos' will do a good deal in helping with the cap.


Dalts Out of Focus Odin's Call Likes received: 80	#10 - 2013-01-18 00:03:36 UTC Overtanked and you really want 2 omnis for the sentries. Not sure the Nos will help you much as the BS will not get within their range. Armor RR would be more useful for repping drones.

Derath Ellecon

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 2,402

#11 - 2013-01-18 00:32:45 UTC

I haven't put the fit in eft but I can give you this general advise.

I a C3 everyone should be able to local tank without issue. There really isn't a need to RR in C3 anoms. C4 is really where you start to need it. Although I run a dual box tengu setup when nobody else is on with C4 anoms that are local rep.

The only ships you generally have to worry about neuts are the battleships, and they neut at 70km, so the nos will likely be useless, unless you are stealing from a fleet mate.

You will definitely want 2 omnis. I don't know why but sleepers are crazy hard to hit vs standard NPCS with sentry drones.

Don't bother trying to RR your sentries, just pull the one taking Aggro and re deploy.