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Retool the RORQ... For Highsec
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Malcorian Vandsteidt
Alpha Trades
Solyaris Chtonium
#41 - 2013-01-17 23:56:32 UTC
Drake Doe wrote:
The ror can mine for hours longer than a orca because of it's ability to compress ore

Irrelevant


So? The Rorq doesn't mine. It sits in space like a trash can, just like the orca. So unless the player has multiple accounts it's pointless for him to own one, and if he does? who gives a ****?

So he saves 30 seconds an hour, by not having to dock BIG WHOOP. That's like a total extra mining time of..... 12 minuets in a 24 hour period, WOW MAN THAT IS SO OP!... Not.

I mean really....
Drake Doe
88Th Tax Haven
#42 - 2013-01-18 00:13:54 UTC
The butthurt is very strong in you and I think you may be the one, now would you kindly return to Eve and cry about your ship not going into high sec to someone who cares.

"The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! pops more corn" ---Evernub--
Thutmose I
Rattium Incorporated
#43 - 2013-01-18 03:30:19 UTC
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
The ror can mine for hours longer than a orca because of it's ability to compress ore

Irrelevant


So? The Rorq doesn't mine. It sits in space like a trash can, just like the orca. So unless the player has multiple accounts it's pointless for him to own one, and if he does? who gives a ****?

So he saves 30 seconds an hour, by not having to dock BIG WHOOP. That's like a total extra mining time of..... 12 minuets in a 24 hour period, WOW MAN THAT IS SO OP!... Not.

I mean really....


Methinks someone is underestimating the time required to dock, the mining bonus increase from Rorq over orca, and the difference in ore capacity between the rorq and orca.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#44 - 2013-01-18 03:35:55 UTC
Thutmose I wrote:
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
The ror can mine for hours longer than a orca because of it's ability to compress ore

Irrelevant


So? The Rorq doesn't mine. It sits in space like a trash can, just like the orca. So unless the player has multiple accounts it's pointless for him to own one, and if he does? who gives a ****?

So he saves 30 seconds an hour, by not having to dock BIG WHOOP. That's like a total extra mining time of..... 12 minuets in a 24 hour period, WOW MAN THAT IS SO OP!... Not.

I mean really....


Methinks someone is underestimating the time required to dock, the mining bonus increase from Rorq over orca, and the difference in ore capacity between the rorq and orca.

What is ore compression?
Thutmose I
Rattium Incorporated
#45 - 2013-01-18 03:51:31 UTC
Astroniomix wrote:
Thutmose I wrote:
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
The ror can mine for hours longer than a orca because of it's ability to compress ore

Irrelevant


So? The Rorq doesn't mine. It sits in space like a trash can, just like the orca. So unless the player has multiple accounts it's pointless for him to own one, and if he does? who gives a ****?

So he saves 30 seconds an hour, by not having to dock BIG WHOOP. That's like a total extra mining time of..... 12 minuets in a 24 hour period, WOW MAN THAT IS SO OP!... Not.

I mean really....


Methinks someone is underestimating the time required to dock, the mining bonus increase from Rorq over orca, and the difference in ore capacity between the rorq and orca.

What is ore compression?


exactly my point, quite a significant difference in capacity.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-01-18 04:58:38 UTC
Thutmose I wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:
Thutmose I wrote:
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
Drake Doe wrote:
The ror can mine for hours longer than a orca because of it's ability to compress ore

Irrelevant


So? The Rorq doesn't mine. It sits in space like a trash can, just like the orca. So unless the player has multiple accounts it's pointless for him to own one, and if he does? who gives a ****?

So he saves 30 seconds an hour, by not having to dock BIG WHOOP. That's like a total extra mining time of..... 12 minuets in a 24 hour period, WOW MAN THAT IS SO OP!... Not.

I mean really....


Methinks someone is underestimating the time required to dock, the mining bonus increase from Rorq over orca, and the difference in ore capacity between the rorq and orca.

What is ore compression?


exactly my point, quite a significant difference in capacity.

On that point, the highsec doesn't really NEED the rorqual because one of the biggest advantages of the rorqual is it's ability to compress ore thus making it easier to move to a good refining station. Highsec has refineries pretty much everywhere and so doesn't need to be able to crush ore.
Thutmose I
Rattium Incorporated
#47 - 2013-01-18 05:02:11 UTC
Astroniomix wrote:

On that point, the highsec doesn't really NEED the rorqual because one of the biggest advantages of the rorqual is it's ability to compress ore thus making it easier to move to a good refining station. Highsec has refineries pretty much everywhere and so doesn't need to be able to crush ore.



I agree, also, high sec is perfectly capable of mining out belts efficiently enough as it is, mainly due to the ease of hauling and relative safety of mining from what I see, so an additional boost to that is not needed.
Astroniomix
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2013-01-18 05:04:29 UTC
Thutmose I wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:

On that point, the highsec doesn't really NEED the rorqual because one of the biggest advantages of the rorqual is it's ability to compress ore thus making it easier to move to a good refining station. Highsec has refineries pretty much everywhere and so doesn't need to be able to crush ore.



I agree, also, high sec is perfectly capable of mining out belts efficiently enough as it is, mainly due to the ease of hauling and relative safety of mining from what I see, so an additional boost to that is not needed.

Not to mention it would drop low end mineral prices further (increased supply) thus giving newbies an even harder time trying to start up.
Oliver Stoned
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#49 - 2013-01-18 06:23:15 UTC
Wouldn't allowing a Rorqual in Empire enable the better transporting of minerals to/from Nullsec?
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#50 - 2013-01-18 06:37:58 UTC
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
If you get to bring your rorqual into highsec then I want to bring my dreads and carriers.

I'm sure you'll agree it's only fair.


No, because the rorq is an Industrial Platform, not a comabt ship.

A carrier and Dread are combat only ships.

HOWEVER:

I am not Opposed to all caps being allowed back in high sec with the exception of Titans. Eve used to be like this, Then people started Abusing it. So CCP Restricted capitals to 0.0 and Lowsec.

You can't really Abuse a Rorq, Just like you really can't abuse an Orca, The only reason It isn't allowed in Highsec is because it was restricted because it is a "Capital". If it was reclassified as a Command Ship like the Orca, it would be allowed in Highsec.


I will support your idea.... if we delete cynos and allow caps to jump themselves within their respective jump ranges....

Stupid cap restrictions are stupid.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Mag's
Azn Empire
#51 - 2013-01-18 07:15:45 UTC
Malcorian Vandsteidt wrote:
Mag's wrote:
I call bull and I see you avoided the rest of that post. How unusual. Roll

Never stop posting.


I didn't reply to B. Because it's irellevant asking me to point out people that suicided newbs 6-7 years ago is like asking me to recall what I did on a tuesday in march 7 years ago. I mean really. If you want proof stop being lazy and go look it up yourself.
No that doesn't wash. You see when you claim something as fact, you really need to back that up with proof. The onus is upon you to provide that proof.

So as and until you show me proof, you are talking BULL.

Get to it, I'll wait. Blink

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Thutmose I
Rattium Incorporated
#52 - 2013-01-18 08:15:12 UTC
Astroniomix wrote:
Thutmose I wrote:
Astroniomix wrote:

On that point, the highsec doesn't really NEED the rorqual because one of the biggest advantages of the rorqual is it's ability to compress ore thus making it easier to move to a good refining station. Highsec has refineries pretty much everywhere and so doesn't need to be able to crush ore.



I agree, also, high sec is perfectly capable of mining out belts efficiently enough as it is, mainly due to the ease of hauling and relative safety of mining from what I see, so an additional boost to that is not needed.

Not to mention it would drop low end mineral prices further (increased supply) thus giving newbies an even harder time trying to start up.


we don't want them newbies having to sell trit for 1-2isk/unit like it used to be, Making any amount of isk mining in high sec was a pain back then, I think I only mined for a few minutes the first day before realising that I could make more off loot from the random rats in the belts...
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