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Some people with too much isk, botting? tech isk? spending 300b a week something wrong?
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Rual Storge
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-01-17 11:30:56 UTC
I am viewing daily the forums and something in the Sell section notices me. Some people give out hundereds of billions of isk each week on T2 bpo's, ships and even corpses. Ridicules high spenders.

In the battle against bots, it makes me wonder how some people can spend 4 trillion isk in 3 months (Example) . Is CCP also investageting this in the battle against bots?

I can conclude that they follow the isk generated and ban people accourding but why not search the other way around? Find the big spenders (free isk makes you spend alot), and trace the isk to its source and ban the **** out of it?
TheBlueMonkey
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-01-17 11:35:09 UTC
So some people are good at making isk and that makes them botters?

You know that once you have isk making more is pretty easy right?
Some of the top market traders push insane amounts of money around the markets daily.

I can also see someone buying up T2 BPOs being a tactical thing as well as an investment thing.

Less bpo's on the market = less supply = higher prices
Wait for prices to rise, sell bpo\start churning out t2 mods.
Sidrat Flush
KarmaFleet
#3 - 2013-01-17 11:37:58 UTC
So it couldn't possibly be plex sales right? I'm sure CCP already does this, after all they have the database amnd can follow the iskfrom faucet to sink to a third party.

Its time to stand up against the bad empire based CEO telling falsehoods about what new characters can accomplish and pushing them towards an in game experience of drudgery and loneliness keeping them in the shadow of ignorance for at nest their own profit at worse apathy towards all the experiences that Eve has to offer.
Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
#4 - 2013-01-17 12:05:45 UTC
Botting is a problem in eve, yes. People that have alot of isk aren't all botters, so chasing after the rich to ban botters is a terrible idea.

Many botters are RMT'ers and aren't all that ISK rich since the ISK is usually either laundered or sold to RMT companies after it is farmed.

I could buy a T2 bpo myself right now if I chose to, but I won't for many reasons that I won't start listing off in this thread. Should CCP be banning me for botting because I have that wealth? Probably not, since I dont' bot.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#5 - 2013-01-17 21:35:15 UTC
Rual Storge wrote:

In the battle against bots, it makes me wonder how some people can spend 4 trillion isk in 3 months (Example) . Is CCP also investageting this in the battle against bots?


4T in 3 months is not really that far above average.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#6 - 2013-01-17 21:42:43 UTC
I am a forum bot. Please investigate me as well. Someone this good lookin' must not be human.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-01-17 21:48:15 UTC
Think about how a free to play game can make millions on a cash shop where the majority of people aren't spending large sums of money on a regular basis.

Or how about Entropia universe were people spend tens of thousands of dollars to buy virtual land.


Some people have more money than brains.
And some people have a lot of both.

But mostly it's the first.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-01-17 21:58:54 UTC
Anyone with more money than me is a botter.

Anyone with less money than me is a scrub.

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Qolde
Comms Black
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-01-17 22:05:37 UTC
I wouldn't call 4t in 3 months average. It would make sense to look at high volume wallets. They don't necessarily have to be cheating to get that much, but it's not unimaginable that they may be cheating. Watching would do no harm.

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Dheeradj Nurgle
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-01-17 22:07:03 UTC
4b/month is not that hard for some dualboxers running Forsaken Hubs. It takes some significant play time/day though.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#11 - 2013-01-17 23:18:49 UTC
I note in the linked example there are both Want to Buys and Want to Sells. Also some of the sells are for "Titans and supers". This looks like someone who buying and selling top end stuff, and making money doing so.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#12 - 2013-01-17 23:25:44 UTC
Dheeradj Nurgle wrote:
4b/month is not that hard for some dualboxers running Forsaken Hubs. It takes some significant play time/day though.

Not billion. They're talking Trillion. 4 Billion is nothing but a 4 Trillion is quite a bit imho...

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Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
#13 - 2013-01-17 23:47:15 UTC
maybe he is doing bussines on behalf of his corp. so its not the wealth of a single person

all botters are rich players,all rich players arent botters
GreenSeed
#14 - 2013-01-18 00:05:03 UTC
most bulk buyers are fronts for corporations... i sell between 50 and 100 bc/hac hulls a month to some dude on an NPC corp who's 4 months old.

i know the money isn't his... and i don't want to know where those hulls go, and i'm sure whoever they are using them against would love to know who's doing the day trading for them.... so i appreciate the discretion. :D


also, profits are percentual, on eve and on real life. just because you are space hobo with employee mentality doesn't mean everyone else does the same. build capital, and invest, stop living day to day.
Hannah Flex
#15 - 2013-01-18 00:25:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Hannah Flex
Randolph Rothstein wrote:
maybe he is doing bussines on behalf of his corp. so its not the wealth of a single person

all botters are rich players,all rich players arent botters


I can tell who that person really is by their bounty. 444,444 anyone who plays the market in Jita recognizes the 444,444,444.44 orders. That person is not a botter but a very powerful member of a very powerful organization. Not all is as it seems. Cool :tinfoil:

EDIT: and dealing in trillions is nothing to them
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#16 - 2013-01-18 00:44:30 UTC
Eat the rich!
Norm Tempesta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-01-18 01:19:34 UTC
Dang, now Scatim has got me wondering if I am a botter or a scrub..
Rawthorm
The Establishment
#18 - 2013-01-18 01:45:03 UTC
Wealth isn't a sign of being a botter. I could comfortably make 150 Bil a month, probably more. The main reason I don't is because I can't be bothered with the stress and mind numbing bordum of it all.
Wealth in eve is usually just a sign of being able to endure what others won't (Or cross moral lines others won't)
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#19 - 2013-01-18 05:47:12 UTC
Rawthorm wrote:
Wealth isn't a sign of being a botter. I could comfortably make 150 Bil a month, probably more. The main reason I don't is because I can't be bothered with the stress and mind numbing bordum of it all.
Wealth in eve is usually just a sign of being able to endure what others won't (Or cross moral lines others won't)


yep. I get bored of making isk and I don't really have a goal right now. I spend most of my time ship spinning, chatting, and forum warrioring.

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Tarpedo
Incursionista
#20 - 2013-01-18 05:57:48 UTC
Maybe he's just a scammer. - or respective corporate investor. Which is almost the same in may cases - just like in real life.
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